New win 1873 for cowboy 3 gun?

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What dose any one know about the new win 1873 that Winchester has brought out? What kind of work if any would have to be done on it to make it suitable for cowboy action shooting? I want to get into this sport with my 3 boys.
 
I believe the new Win 73 is built by Miroku in Japan. They have a good reputation, however I have not heard if the aftermarket kits and springs that many companies biuld for the Uberti 73 will interchange. Also I have heard the the Win 73 has a tang safety and does not have color case on the receiver, just what I heard do not know for sure. If it was me I would get the Uberti , or wait until the new Winchester has been proven a little. I have 2 Uberti 73s all tricked out and I would not trade them.
 
I was on the win web site looking at pics of the 1873 to see if they had a tang safety,and there was none,it is the only new one without one according to the pictures. What do the kits cost?
 
I just looked at the uberti site,those are nice looking rifles. They are more expensive then the new winchesters. But I want the best. So you guys like the uberti's, I will take your advice.Who is a dealer in Canada? I never see them come up on the equipment exchange. I have never held one how do they feel ? They must be good judging by the price. Thanks for the help.


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I bought mine from Rusty Woods Trading Company and had him slick everything up. The Uberti M73 has to be the fastest lever action rifle available for Cowboy competition use. Pre Remington Marlins used to be the favourite rifle for compeditors but now it is Uberti. More expensive but it will last for years.
 
Has anyone seen a new Winchester 1873? All of the dealers I know tell me that we might see some by late fall but even that's not for sure. Notice also that it's only the blued carbine model that they are advertising for sale and not the case hardened rifle model they showed us at the Shot Show. As it sits, the Uberti is a proven rifle. Also, if you do find one, don't hesitate buying it. CAS is picking up in Europe and Uberti has indicated they would like to satisfy that market first. Might be a Uberti shortage this sping?
 
x1 for Rusty Wood. You could also try the Gun Room, sorry I meant Shooters Choice, in Ontario they usually have a stock of Ubertis and are very good to deal with. I prefer the 20inch barrel short rifle, I like the muzzle heavy balance as I find it hangs on target better, however some shooters prefer the carbine, see if you can find someone in your area that will let you try theirs. IE go to a match, you will find all kinds of guys and gals that will let you fondle their firearms. If you want the best I would definately go Uberti, I think about 99% of the top CAS shooters use Uberti 73s tricked out with alll new springs and short stroke kits.
Just my 2 cents worth.
 
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Cariboo Lefty said:
I believe the new Win 73 is built by Miroku in Japan. They have a good reputation, however I have not heard if the aftermarket kits and springs that many companies biuld for the Uberti 73 will interchange. Also I have heard the the Win 73 has a tang safety and does not have color case on the receiver, just what I heard do not know for sure. If it was me I would get the Uberti , or wait until the new Winchester has been proven a little. I have 2 Uberti 73s all tricked out and I would not trade them.
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I recently bought a 1894 Winchester made by Miroku and it seems to be a great rifle. Has tang safety, but I was able to get a Marble Arm tang sight that fits that model. I realize this is not the 73 but I assume the quality would also be good. I would not hesitate to buy a 73 made by them.
 
Uberti's are very nice. Why don't you head to a shoot. there's a good core of CAS shooters @ Chatham area and another in London. Go to either range (check the O.S.A.S.F. website for shoot details) and one of the guys would be happy to let you try a 1873 out. they sorta sell themselves after that. You might even luck out and find someone who has one for sale. Sometimes guys with too much money buy back up rifles and after a few years, they realize that they don't really need them and let them go.
 
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Sometimes guys with too much money buy back up rifles and after a few years, they realize that they don't really need them and let them go.
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You have obviously never had a gun break down when your an 8 hour drive from home, or on a Sunday where you can't find a gunshop open with the correct replacement parts for your gun, have you?
 
Obviously. Cause I shoot a Marlin. 15 years, thousands of rounds, not a bobble. I've had a Uberti 66 and really liked it, but just prefer my Marlin. They can be competitive too. The 2 fastest CAS shooters in Ontario shoot Marlins. They regularly shoot 18 second stages and not having a short stroked 73 dosn't seem to detrimentally affect them. The newer ones have issues though apparently. Too bad.
Old Model Ruger Vaquero's & Marlins. Solid & dependable. Put in lighter springs and shoot until you die and your grandkids will probably still be shooting them (with the mandatory annual cleaning of course).
The only issue with the Marlins is that the screws loosen, so you just tighten them up regularly (some do it between stages, I usually just tighten them up everytime I shoot). That's it. A little luck helps too of course. Better to be lucky than good.
My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.
 
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Obviously. Cause I shoot a Marlin. 15 years, thousands of rounds, not a bobble. I've had a Uberti 66 and really liked it, but just prefer my Marlin. They can be competitive too. The 2 fastest CAS shooters in Ontario shoot Marlins. They regularly shoot 18 second stages and not having a short stroked 73 dosn't seem to detrimentally affect them. The newer ones have issues though apparently. Too bad.
Old Model Ruger Vaquero's & Marlins. Solid & dependable. Put in lighter springs and shoot until you die and your grandkids will probably still be shooting them (with the mandatory annual cleaning of course).
The only issue with the Marlins is that the screws loosen, so you just tighten them up regularly (some do it between stages, I usually just tighten them up everytime I shoot). That's it. A little luck helps too of course. Better to be lucky than good.
My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.
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Guns are mechanical devices.

ALL mechanical devices can break.

Murphy's Law is not to be denied!!! :)

That is why I always have backup guns.

First IDPA Provincials I attended the guy before me fired 3 rounds and his gun broke down.

He did not have a backup gun. No one had a part to fit his gun.

Since then I always have a backup at each and every major match I attend.

John
 
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Obviously. Cause I shoot a Marlin. 15 years, thousands of rounds, not a bobble. I've had a Uberti 66 and really liked it, but just prefer my Marlin. They can be competitive too. The 2 fastest CAS shooters in Ontario shoot Marlins. They regularly shoot 18 second stages and not having a short stroked 73 dosn't seem to detrimentally affect them. The newer ones have issues though apparently. Too bad.
Old Model Ruger Vaquero's & Marlins. Solid & dependable. Put in lighter springs and shoot until you die and your grandkids will probably still be shooting them (with the mandatory annual cleaning of course).
The only issue with the Marlins is that the screws loosen, so you just tighten them up regularly (some do it between stages, I usually just tighten them up everytime I shoot). That's it. A little luck helps too of course. Better to be lucky than good.
My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.
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Well for the last 14 years, I've competed with a .44 mag Marlin M1894S and 2x .44mag "Original" Vaqueros (plus I have 4x .357mag "Original" Vaqueros). My M1894S has provided sterling service until the 9,000 rd point (during the middle of a match) where the front portion of the firing pin broke, 1,500 rds later the rear portion of the firing pin broke. One of my "original" .44 Vaqueros put 20,000 rds down range before the transfer bar broke (during practise). Last year one of my my wife's Vaqueros lost the screw for the grips during a match, she couldn't find it so she pulled out the spare Vaquero. Locktite solved the problem of screws loosening on the Marlin. I bought 2x .357 SASS New Vaqueros last year but I'm not really happy with them. During the last 14 years I have had 2 rifle breakdown during matches and 2 shotgun breakdowns, I average 15-18 CAS matches a year.


I'm in the midst of converting to a Uberti M73 and .357mag "Original" Vaqueros as my wife shoots more and more matches with me each year and frankly I'm tired of loading 2 calibers. I drive anywhere from 5 to 30 hours to attend some matches(Alberta, Saskatchewan,Wyoming,Montana & Arizona), that means money for gas, food and motels for two. Having a backup is cheap insurance compared to the possible waste of hundreds or thousands of dollars if one of my guns break down.
 
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