Yeah this would work but I don't think it's that kind of flinch. It's probably just a lack of practice this year. I'm just going to have to spend alot more time on the range. That's terrible.
New Winchester Model 70 followed me home: Third range report.
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Yeah this would work but I don't think it's that kind of flinch. It's probably just a lack of practice this year. I'm just going to have to spend alot more time on the range. That's terrible.
Yeah, it sure does. Looks fabulous. Probably helps reduce the weight a bit as well.
I decided to try and adjust the pull weight in the new MOA trigger Tonight. When I read the owners manual there were step by step instructions how to adjust the trigger with photo's. As my picture showed they glued over them. Not only that, they forced glue right through the hollow adjustment screw.
It took me twenty minutes of whittling the stuff off, then carving enough of the crap out before I could get a wrench in there but I got it. I backed the screw out as far as it would go. According to the manual it says the screw will come out when the end is reached. It will not. Perhaps if I really wrench on it but the screw seems to have some sort of stopper preventing it from backing out too far. Maxed, it now protrudes about a quarter inch from the face of the unit. The pull feels really, really nice now. Zero creep and about half of the old pull. (I don't have a scale so I can't measure it.) The book says it's pre set to 3.5 pounds, however I can tell you it was heavier, maybe closer to 5. Now it pulls as light as the trigger on my older model but is crisper. I'd like to take it out again Tommorow and see how she'll do now.
I find that lacquer thinner, applied with a small paint brush, works great to remove the goopy compound that they seal the trigger adjustment screws with.
Just flow the thinner onto the screw with the small brush and the compound with soften in a few minutes. You can then scrub and get rid of all of it from the trigger assembly, it's ### anyway.
I then just use some Loctite on the screw heads when I finally get the adjustment where I want it.
As far as shooting it, keep after it pharaoh, thanks for the range reports and pics!
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Really nice
Alec
Alec
Gorgeous Rifle!
I too am a fool for pre-64, the new control feed, and of course the new 2008's.
Stopped at Puds in Bashaw and there was a new "Model of 2008" 30-06 on the self. Randy asked if I wanted to look. Said no because I knew I would not be able to hand it back. His reply: that one is nothing, you should see the wood on teh 270 in the back. Go back to sentence 2 and add: I am fool for any rifle in 270!
Scorched my PAL and VISA card getting it out so fast!
Keep the reports coming as we all want to know how she works for you.
I too am a fool for pre-64, the new control feed, and of course the new 2008's.
Stopped at Puds in Bashaw and there was a new "Model of 2008" 30-06 on the self. Randy asked if I wanted to look. Said no because I knew I would not be able to hand it back. His reply: that one is nothing, you should see the wood on teh 270 in the back. Go back to sentence 2 and add: I am fool for any rifle in 270!
Scorched my PAL and VISA card getting it out so fast!
Keep the reports coming as we all want to know how she works for you.
Yeah this would work but I don't think it's that kind of flinch. It's probably just a lack of practice this year. I'm just going to have to spend alot more time on the range. That's terrible.
IMHO, if you're flinching either that's too much gun for you or you just need to practise more. Going to the range is a good thing, but a lot of people spend too much time "on the bench". The bench is indeed a requirement to zero in your scope and test loads. But once that is done, it's a good idea to get away from the bench. I have access to a huge valley on private land. I walk the valley and shoulder my rifle using no rest and shoot at various rocks. The benefits are better range estimation, you get real comfortable with your rifle, and of course you get much better at off-hand shooting. Good luck.
Has anybody seen any of these new Featherweights in .308 Win, yet? I've been waiting for one ever since they were announced last year, but so far, no dice!
I would love to buy one right now, before they yack up the price for next year, but nobody seems to have them. I went to the store last night and checked one out in .270 Win. Man, it was really hard to hold back the urge to fork out the money and walk out with it. But I need to stay strong, it is a short action model that I want.
By the way, they also had the stainless model. It is a very nice rifle, almost as nice as my Weatherby MK-V Stainless, but much lighter. The stock was light, but beefier than I like, so I wouldn't buy that one.
I would love to buy one right now, before they yack up the price for next year, but nobody seems to have them. I went to the store last night and checked one out in .270 Win. Man, it was really hard to hold back the urge to fork out the money and walk out with it. But I need to stay strong, it is a short action model that I want.
By the way, they also had the stainless model. It is a very nice rifle, almost as nice as my Weatherby MK-V Stainless, but much lighter. The stock was light, but beefier than I like, so I wouldn't buy that one.
Today was the last trip I'm going to make to the range until after the season is finished. I scrubbed the s**t out of the barrel and removed all the copper and powder residue from the bore. I fired my first shot at 200 yards and smacked the gong. I then settled in and fired the top group in the red. The first two shots wandered left and right. The third shot kind of settled in. I waited ten minutes and fired the next group in the blue. Two of the shots piled onto the last shot from the first group and the last shot opened it up to right around one inch. I guess I'm not flinching as I thought I was and it really was the dirty bore. Once it was cleaned they shots were going right around where they were before. This tells me the rifle shoots fine, but that thin barrel is really dependant in a clean bore that will give me around two dozen shots. After that it's still good enough to make hits on target out to at least 200, it just opens up. And one final intresting thing, the first group I fired was after one 'fouling' shot. The following two shots also wandered a bit. The fourth shot fired put it back in place. I'm assuming the barrel isn't properly fouled until it gets three rounds through the tube. I'll remember that in the future. For now I am completely happy with the accuracy this rifle is providing with factory loaded ammo. Now I just have to convince an elk to spend the Winter in the freezer.
mike shickele
Regular
Sooo....
I just got back from the range. I sent 1 shot out to the 200 gong. It's about 8x8 inches in a diamond shape. With a cold, semi clean bore (I still couldn't find my brushes, I had to use a .30 caliber mop) I smacked it. That was my 'fouling' shot. Then I settled in and fired two shots, again touching. The third I pulled it and I knew I did and it went up to the top of the target. Things got progressivly worse from there. I think it's a number of things, but I don't blame the rifle. First off the barrel needs a good cleaning. I used to own a .270 that gave me exactly 20 shots, no kidding where my point of impact didn't change. Cold or clean, warm or dirty it shot to the same spot. After 20 shots the groups opened up and I couldn't come close to the 300 yard gongs for the life of me. I'm thinking I may have somthing similar here. This rifle may only give me 'X' number of shots reliably without cleaning. I'll experiment with that later. My real concern is I'm affraid I've either developed a bit of a flinch, target panic or both. When I'm holding on paper I can't seem to steady myself enough to make me confident in my shot. This happens from time to time with me and the problem just seems to go away. However I can still smack that 200 yard gong, and I did it 9 times out of 10 dirty barrel and all. I'm going to leave everything exactly as is until after the season wraps up then I'll fool around with everything. But it was sure getting frustrating this Morning, especially when I knew I pulled this shot but figured that shot was good when it wasn't.
Hello Pharaoh2
The first thing that you need to do is get that barrel clean in between sessions, the second is to get a rest that doesn't allow the gun to roll all over the place, and third, dryfire 2 rounds for each shot fired, this will decrease your flinch and get you used to the trigger. when you dryfire more than you shoot, you also begin to expect a click, not a bang.
Mike
Sorry Mike, but I disagree with you. What's the inside of a barrel got to do with the outside of it. Face it, as beautiful as those Featherweights are, they were never meant to be a tackdriver. Pencil thin barrels with more bore taken out of them thus, reducing wall thickness are more prone to not only vibration but also changes in metal temperatures. I've shot 30 or more rounds out of a fouled barrel with no perceivable change in accuracy. Now on the other hand if Pharaoh has a problem with flinching, how in the heck is a dry fire going to ever correct that? Dry firing simply does not duplicate firing a live round. As I said before, go out, shoot your gun with live rounds and I'll say it again...get off the bench, shoot your gun, pretend that you're out hunting and go kill some rocks. You'll be amazed at the friendship developed thereoff.
mike shickele
Regular
You assume that thin barrels can't shoot, and yes, ALL THINGS EQUAL they can't shoot as well as thicker barrels, but to assume that a barrel isn't a tack driver simply because it is thin is silly. To dryfire a rifle; especially before taking a shot calms the shooter, familiarizes the shooter with the trigger, and allows the shooter to see if there is movement to the rifle when the firing pin drops. It is standard practice, and when I do so, my groups improve. If you don't wish do do so, or even try it before you badmouth it, fine, that is totally up to you. BTW, I presume that you take a portable bench, or bipod with you when you shoot rocks; that's not off of the bench.
Mike
I did it, I finally did it, I found a short action Featherweight in .308 Win. And to make it even better, I found it cheaper than the long action ones I had checked before! I can't wait for the weekend to go to the shooting range. If it is as accurate as I think it'll be, this is going to be one of my favorite rifles. 
Guys, problem solved and I'm very happy with the accuracy I'm getting, thanks.
I sure as hell would not complain about a 3 shot (blue) 0.5to 0.7 MOA group at 200 yards, good job on making that 70 shoot, been watching this thread close, as I was wondering when you would find out what she liked, and how she liked it..I really like these new m 70s feel good.
Dry firing is probably the single easiest and cheapest thing you can do to improve shooting skills. If someone is suffering from a flinch (we all do from time to time), the last thing they need is to hammer away with more ammo. Stop, dry fire a few times and you'll start focusing on the fundamentals. If you can't dry fire without the cross hairs moving there's no point in putting a round down range.
