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Hey guys and gals, I'm interested in getting an entry level precision rig without having to get a second job.
Right now I'm looking at Remington VTR 700 and a Remington SPS Tactical.

I don't care about the tactical part as I'm not a tactical kinda guy ;) but I do like the shortened barrel on it. They are in my price range for now and I'm curious as to which one has better attributes?

Any info is greatly appreciated. Rock:rockOn:on
 
Same gun, different fit and finish.

Do you want the heavy long barrel or the short one?
Are you ok with the cheap SPS finish or do you like the VTR finish more? Is it worth the extra money to you?

If you are looking at entry level also take a peak at what Savage has to offer. They shoot very well out of the box and the options you get right from factory are pretty awesome. I won't stick my neck out and say whats better, factory rifles are all ok shooters and for the novice you prolly wouldn't see a significant difference. You may get a laser gun, you may get a mediocre gun.
 
I would avoid the VTR with the triangular barrel and muzzle brake. You won't make any new friends at the range with a muzzle brake on your rifle:p Most competitions (other than Precision matches/sniper style matches) do not allow muzzle brakes.

I would also have a look at what Savage has to offer.
 
From what I been looking at in my research for what I would like to get is that Savage offers the fastest factory twist in the .223, which is great if you plan on heavy bullets for long range. Thats not a big deal if you are going after a different caliber.
 
TrxR said:
From what I been looking at in my research for what I would like to get is that Savage offers the fastest factory twist in the .223, which is great if you plan on heavy bullets for long range. Thats not a big deal if you are going after a different caliber.
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I shoot a semi-auto in .308 but would definitively like to try out the .223

After some research I realize that I'll get the same performance out of a heavy gr. 223 as a .308 (am I right ?)
 
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MagnumPeanut said:
Yes, in the right gun (slow twist 1:7 or 1-8) and the right bullet (berger VLD 90g)
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Pssst. 1 turn in 7 inches or a 1 turn in 8 inches is known as a fast twist. Where as 1 turn in 12 or 14 inches is a slow twist.

To the OP. You need 1:7" for 90 gr pills or a 1:8" for 80 gr bullets.
An 80 gr bullet in a .223 is as good or slightly better in the wind as a 155 gr bullet out of a .308. Elevations settings from 300 yards to 1000 yards are almost the same. The performance on paper targets would be the same.
 
so far savage has come up a few times as a recommendation. I can also highly recommend to look at savage. Out of the box, they cannot be beat for the money. They are very accurate rifles, and its not too hit and miss with them.
 
i haven't seen any short barreled savages, unless you find one that's been shortened,

is 24in considered short to you, i think they make a 24 in .223

i just bought a savage f/tr in .223 with a 30in barrel and so far its been shooting very well

im into my rig $1800 (with a minox 6-30x56) if i did it over id spend more on the optics tho, probly try a sightron
 
Check out the Weatherby vangaurd sub moa on sale at WSS for $669.99.
.223, .243 and 30-06 its reg price is $869.99.
 
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