Newbie looking for New (Black) NR Semi 308, what else it available?

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Hey all, I'm interested in finding a ,308 semi auto rifle that is Non Restricted that is also something similar to an Ar10 etc, (I know AR's rifles are restricted)
I'm aware of the Rob Arms XCR~M, but I'm not sure of any others,,, It will be used for hunting and target shooting any ideas,,,
Thanks for the help everyone
 
You could try the Kel-Tec RFB if you can get your hands on one :p see also, the FNAR, m14/m305, If you're not absolutely set on .308 you could also look into something like the SVT-40 in 7.62x54r, the cartridge offers comparable if not superior capabilities with the plus of cheaply available surplus for range practice.
 
I read your whole post and own both. If hunting is in mix then RFB hands down. You will never look back after slinging the kel tec and how easily it is manipulating tru your surroundings, does fine for target work aswell. The M on the other hand is my go to bench style semi .308, less finicky than the RFB but would be my last choice in my safe to haul around in the brush. Many reviews on both in the forums with as many haters and lovers of each. Both have the pluses and minus depending on your overal needs.
 
I was looking for the same thing and chose to go with the FNH FNAR. All of the reviews stated it to be a very accurate (probably the most accurate out of the box of NR 308 Semis), and reliable rifle.
 
Paladin308 said:
You could try the Kel-Tec RFB if you can get your hands on one :p see also, the FNAR, m14/m305, If you're not absolutely set on .308 you could also look into something like the SVT-40 in 7.62x54r, the cartridge offers comparable if not superior capabilities with the plus of cheaply available surplus for range practice.
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Thank you for your assistance Paladin308,,, I'm not interested in a M14/M305 and appreciate the SVT~40 tip, but really do not want wood or any calibre but ,308,,, I will be looking into the RFB further, thanks,,,
 
Paladin308 said:
no problem, I aim to please :D
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Wow Paladin308 your right on top of the game here, I posted up the first quote you replied to and then checked out the SVT~40 and edited my post within a few minutes, not only do you aim to please but you are quick, thanks again,,,

I new about the RFB but looked away because of being unfamiliar with that platform of firearm (I know that should not be a reason),,, I would like the rifle I choose to have a high level of reliability, accuracy and the ability to manage severe conditions well (hope that's not asking to much, but serviceability and reliability will be important),,,
I'm not saying the RFB is inferior in any of those areas but need more quality references and the ability to hold (preferably use) a RFB would be necessary before acquiring one,,,
Cheers
 
Did shoot the RFB, very reliable, accuracy is good but for me the ergo are not good , i own 2 XCR-M, reliables, better accuracy overall ( my opinion) ergo are great but not as swift as the RFB, you must try the but if you cant the XCR-M is pretty much one size fit all... JP.
 
factionrr said:
I read your whole post and own both. If hunting is in mix then RFB hands down. You will never look back after slinging the kel tec and how easily it is manipulating tru your surroundings, does fine for target work aswell. The M on the other hand is my go to bench style semi .308, less finicky than the RFB but would be my last choice in my safe to haul around in the brush. Many reviews on both in the forums with as many haters and lovers of each. Both have the pluses and minus depending on your overal needs.
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Thanks for the input factionrr, it is excellent to hear from someone who has owned/operated a RFB and a XCR~M,,, You say the RFB is the go to rifle for hunting but also mention that the XCR~M is less finicky then the RFB at the range,,, This concerns me regarding the RFB, as I would prefer to not have any finicky issues at all during range time and especially when hunting,,,
I recognize the positive attributes you have mentioned regarding the ease of carry/target acquisition that the RFB's compact layout offers, especially for hunting in dense or difficult terrain, the RFB had me very interested when I first saw it (mostly due to it being a semi/308 with a very short overall length and cool looks, plus being a little different has a plus factor for myself),,,
Factionrr you mention that your XCR~M is your go to rifle for bench style shooting, so how does the RFB compare in accuracy to the XCR~M, there would be a time when my rifle would have quality optics on it, but I'm really only interested in accuracy up to and including 600Meters max, which wouldn't be often and definitely not for hunting (most of my shooting would be done at 300Meters and less),,, I appreciate any input you may have and thank you for your time,,, Cheers
 
The less pricey but less popular alternative is the FNAR:

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I would love to see some accuracy results between these rifles and the XCRs.
 
Zeroed-In said:
Thanks for the input factionrr, it is excellent to hear from someone who has owned/operated a RFB and a XCR~M,,, You say the RFB is the go to rifle for hunting but also mention that the XCR~M is less finicky then the RFB at the range,,, This concerns me regarding the RFB, as I would prefer to not have any finicky issues at all during range time and especially when hunting,,,
I recognize the positive attributes you have mentioned regarding the ease of carry/target acquisition that the RFB's compact layout offers, especially for hunting in dense or difficult terrain, the RFB had me very interested when I first saw it (mostly due to it being a semi/308 with a very short overall length and cool looks, plus being a little different has a plus factor for myself),,,
Factionrr you mention that your XCR~M is your go to rifle for bench style shooting, so how does the RFB compare in accuracy to the XCR~M, there would be a time when my rifle would have quality optics on it, but I'm really only interested in accuracy up to and including 600Meters max, which wouldn't be often and definitely not for hunting (most of my shooting would be done at 300Meters and less),,, I appreciate any input you may have and thank you for your time,,, Cheers
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I have never shot the xcr , but from reading on here both platform are pretty close accuracy wise, probably .25 moa difference top! What factionr more then likely refers to is the ease of bench shootings ng As the rfb is much shorter so movment at the stock translate to more movement at the muzzle compare to the xcr as your rest is on the front of the gun.

On the other hand wen hunting and shouldering the rifle your rest piont is on you shoulder so he shorter rf will translate in less muzzel movement.

Hope this help! Joe brook still has stock! Get one befor you kick yourself in the a** for not wen you could ;)
 
Morc said:
I was looking for the same thing and chose to go with the FNH FNAR. All of the reviews stated it to be a very accurate (probably the most accurate out of the box of NR 308 Semis), and reliable rifle.
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Thanks for the reply Morc, how do you like the FNH FNAR? Is it reliable when under periods of extended fire and does it maintain it's accuracy? If you don't mind me asking, where did you purchase it? I did notice this model, and was thinking of it being a possibility as it does have almost everything I could ask for in a semi 308 rifle,,, The reviews claimed very good accuracy, but I also noticed that the take down of the firearm was a little more complicated/more small parts then I would prefer (lots of small parts etc, when watching a video of the take down) would you agree or do you think a take down in the field would be no big deal with that model firearm? I would prefer to have iron sights for a back up to the glass optics, but I suppose that could be overcome one way or another,,,
I know I'm asking a lot, but if you could post up answers to any of these questions it would be greatly appreciated,,,

Cheers
 
rally guy said:
I have never shot the xcr , but from reading on here both platform are pretty close accuracy wise, probably .25 moa difference top! What factionr more then likely refers to is the ease of bench shootings ng As the rfb is much shorter so movment at the stock translate to more movement at the muzzle compare to the xcr as your rest is on the front of the gun.

On the other hand wen hunting and shouldering the rifle your rest piont is on you shoulder so he shorter rf will translate in less muzzel movement.

Hope this help! Joe brook still has stock! Get one befor you kick yourself in the a** for not wen you could ;)
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Thanks rally guy, if I go ahead with a RFB it would be the 18,5" barreled model for sure, but would have to hold one before buying which may take a little time to actually get one into my hands (I usually cross the border into Washington State to see the really new/cool firearms as even the small town stores in the USA have better stock then the larger firearms stores in BC),,, I don't mind waiting a little longer because I can only afford to spend this kinda cash on a rifle once, still paying off the kids braces (which could have bought me a FNH FNAR, RFB, Ruger GSS & Ruger SS 10/22 + a nice Glock and ammo, for all of them "Doh" LOL and no I'm not kidding/exaggerating, but I'm not complaining either because my daughter likes shooting too, which means Mom can't say no to any gun purchases as it's a vote of two to one LOL),,, Thanks for the tip about the shorter barrel on the shoulder versus longer barrel on the bench/forward bipod, I had not thought of that aspect for a long, long time (probably since first being taught it many years ago),,, Cheers
 
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Awesome pics rally guy, I did not know RFB's came with colour options or is yours custom? (It looks great in tan btw) What scope were using on the hunt, it looks to be the same one mounted in the picture of your RFB disassembled (thanks for the disassembled photo too, it really helps to understand the firearm better),,, Cheers
 
rally guy said:
How much does a fnar mag goes for nowadays? 120 $? 130 $?
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If that last pic you added is from around 100meters I would be happy with that (good grouping btw) and I have no idea about the cost of FNH FNAR mag,'s but if they are over $100 it would be taken into consideration because whatever I get I will require several Mag,'s (like 50 rds worth) and I would hate to have to spend a $1,000+ for 10 mag,'s,,,
 
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