Newbie Question: 22lr scope at 100 yards

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Recently purchased a CZ 512

I did do a search and found this thread: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2254436-Magnification-to-see-your-shots-at-100-yards
The first part of my question is the same, and the thread seems to say you'll want something at least 14-16x to be able to see .22 holes at 100 yards.

The second part of my question is... are there any decent scopes at that magnification (lets say maximum being 16x to 20x) that doesn't cost as much as the rifle? Or is this one of those buy once cry once sort of thing.

Thanks!
 
machohugeaxe said:
Recently purchased a CZ 512

I did do a search and found this thread: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2254436-Magnification-to-see-your-shots-at-100-yards
The first part of my question is the same, and the thread seems to say you'll want something at least 14-16x to be able to see .22 holes at 100 yards.

The second part of my question is... are there any decent scopes at that magnification (lets say maximum being 16x to 20x) that doesn't cost as much as the rifle? Or is this one of those buy once cry once sort of thing.

Thanks!
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Once you get deeper into the “22 at long range journey”, you will realize that $500-$700 for a 22 scope is about the bottom end of effective for the task. Vortex has the Venom, Athlon has several in that range, I’m sure others will be posted also. 14-16X will let you see holes at 100 in good conditions, but not always. Higher quality glass is always more effective at lower power than cheap glass is. Bench rest shooters use very high power and thin reticles. A lot depends on your goals.
 
machohugeaxe said:
Recently purchased a CZ 512

I did do a search and found this thread: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2254436-Magnification-to-see-your-shots-at-100-yards
The first part of my question is the same, and the thread seems to say you'll want something at least 14-16x to be able to see .22 holes at 100 yards.

The second part of my question is... are there any decent scopes at that magnification (lets say maximum being 16x to 20x) that doesn't cost as much as the rifle? Or is this one of those buy once cry once sort of thing.

Thanks!
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I used bushnell nitro 4-16X44, and then got a vortex diamondback tactical 6-24X50. They are both fine, with parallax adjustment.
now I got a vudoo so I need to match the value of this rifle with a decent scope, so I put a nightforce nx8 4-32x50 on it. This thing just blows my mind. The glass quality is so much better, but of course it costs 5-6 times more than bushnell and vortex.

In the optics world, it's well acknowledged that you pay 5 times more and get 50% better quality. It's just the reality. Different people with different economical abilities have different views.
To begin with, a mid-range vortex or bushnell with max magnification anywhere from 16-24 will serve you well, cost you about $500-600.
Most importantly for 22lr you need a scope with adjustable parallax, so that you can shoot as close as 25 yards, or stretch out to 200 yards if you wish.

I have that vortex diamondback tactical on sell now in EE, it's just sitting there as a spare. I may need it in the future if I decide to get a CZ 457, but for now I am selling it. Take a look if you are interested. https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...8-Vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-moa
 
JQIAN said:
I used bushnell nitro 4-16X44, and then got a vortex diamondback tactical 6-24X50. They are both fine, with parallax adjustment.
now I got a vudoo so I need to match the value of this rifle with a decent scope, so I put a nightforce nx8 4-32x50 on it. This thing just blows my mind. The glass quality is so much better, but of course it costs 5-6 times more than bushnell and vortex.

In the optics world, it's well acknowledged that you pay 5 times more and get 50% better quality. It's just the reality. Different people with different economical abilities have different views.
To begin with, a mid-range vortex or bushnell with max magnification anywhere from 16-24 will serve you well, cost you about $500-600.
Most importantly for 22lr you need a scope with adjustable parallax, so that you can shoot as close as 25 yards, or stretch out to 200 yards if you wish.

I have that vortex diamondback tactical on sell now in EE, it's just sitting there as a spare. I may need it in the future if I decide to get a CZ 457, but for now I am selling it. Take a look if you are interested. https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...8-Vortex-diamondback-tactical-6-24x50-ffp-moa
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Damn, the price tag on your new scope!
Thanks, I'll take a look.
 
Hey Macho ,First congrats on getting your 512 they are a nice gun.
You may find they don't have the accuracy of bolt guns they are a good start.

If you limit your scope selection to 16 power you may be disappointed
I have a 2.5-16x42 Bush and it doesn't spot shots well after 50 and .17 HMR
not well at all .

I have a couple Athlon scopes and found that their reticles are fantastic for
accurate spotting the Midas Tac 6-24x50 is around $800 .

Take your time , good luck ... skwerl
 
I have a Savage mark II with iron sights - I put on a Simmons fixed 4x scope (4x32) only shoot at 50 yards am pretty sure I can use hold over at 100 yards. I think my set up set me back about $350 taxes in. BTW just under 5,000 rounds down the pipe in two years
 
My .02c - check the EE for an x32-ish scope, unless you have $3K + to spare. And you might want to look at FFP in lower cost realm. I have a Cabelas Covenant-4 in 6-24x50 FFP-SF that does well at 180 yds on my B22 and CZ455. It has a 'tree-reticle' with numbers every 4-th Bar that helps with rapid hold-over. S/B under $500 and sometimes on sale for much less. I'm not into competition OR good enough to justify $3K+. Hitting around 1.5-2" at 100yds.
Are you shooting Steel or paper at that 100 ? And what are your expectations since you are using a semi instead of a bolt gun ?
 
You can use a leupold 4-12x40 and see holes at 100 yrds. I use one on my take down, and it is just fine. The newer ones with CDS dials, just icing on the cake.

I have also used the Primary arms GLX line in the 4-16x 50 for a 22 for a while. zero stops, parallax, it has it all. Still a decent price point.

The problem you will have with better optics is once you try one, it is VERY hard to go back to a lesser scope, and you just end up upgrading across all your rifles. Currently using a 5-25x56 on my latest 22LR, but the plan from the beginning was to go long, so it will be put to good use.

Remember we all started somewhere as well, and it wasn't always with the best optics.
 
wallz said:
You can use a leupold 4-12x40 and see holes at 100 yrds. I use one on my take down, and it is just fine. The newer ones with CDS dials, just icing on the cake.

I have also used the Primary arms GLX line in the 4-16x 50 for a 22 for a while. zero stops, parallax, it has it all. Still a decent price point.

The problem you will have with better optics is once you try one, it is VERY hard to go back to a lesser scope, and you just end up upgrading across all your rifles. Currently using a 5-25x56 on my latest 22LR, but the plan from the beginning was to go long, so it will be put to good use.

Remember we all started somewhere as well, and it wasn't always with the best optics.
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You must have eagle eyes.
I cannot see a 22lr hole from 100 yards on x16 power. I have to use a spotting scope zooming into at least x30 to find the hole
 
Buck1950 said:
My .02c - check the EE for an x32-ish scope, unless you have $3K + to spare. And you might want to look at FFP in lower cost realm. I have a Cabelas Covenant-4 in 6-24x50 FFP-SF that does well at 180 yds on my B22 and CZ455. It has a 'tree-reticle' with numbers every 4-th Bar that helps with rapid hold-over. S/B under $500 and sometimes on sale for much less. I'm not into competition OR good enough to justify $3K+. Hitting around 1.5-2" at 100yds.
Are you shooting Steel or paper at that 100 ? And what are your expectations since you are using a semi instead of a bolt gun ?
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Paper. To be honest I already have a cheaper bolt, so I just wanted a bit of variety and I really like how the 512 looks. I don't have any expectations yet for grouping. The range I go to goes up to 100 yards thats why I mentioned that distance and I like the convenience of being able to see how I did since the target mover takes a while to move that distance...
 
I change my Nikon x1000 4-16 on my mtr for a Delta Javelin 4-30, the reticle is exactly what i whanted, and the clarity is amazing......
 
machohugeaxe said:
Recently purchased a CZ 512

I did do a search and found this thread: https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2254436-Magnification-to-see-your-shots-at-100-yards
The first part of my question is the same, and the thread seems to say you'll want something at least 14-16x to be able to see .22 holes at 100 yards.

The second part of my question is... are there any decent scopes at that magnification (lets say maximum being 16x to 20x) that doesn't cost as much as the rifle? Or is this one of those buy once cry once sort of thing.

Thanks!
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IMO it is one of those buy once cry once sort of thing. A good scope gives you the flexibility if you want to shoot beyond 100y and portable to any new rifle if and when you move on from 22.
 
I have a Shepherd on one of my Annies, and a Japanese Tasco 6-24 on the other. The Shepherd works amazingly well with its ranging system. But that Tasco was quite a surprise. Clear, and yes, I can see bullet holes at 100, long as the light is good. Parallel adjustment is on the tube, as most scopes of that era. And you can't beat the cost. - dan
 
manbearpig said:
$700 bottom end for a scope for a .22LR @ 100yds?
I guess I'm doing something terribly wrong...
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It depends on what you are trying to do. Hit a target at 100, $200 will cover it. Shoot under 2” for 10 shots reliably, quite a bit more. Shooting small steel and paper out to 300+ on the clock, especially multiple targets, yes $5-700 probably the lower end. Benchrest (repeatable under 1 MOA 10 shots at 100) might do ok with $500, but most spend more to be competitive.
 
You need a good scope to see the difference between being right on point-of-aim vs a tenth of a mil off, or finer accuracy if you're chasing that, but you don't need to be able to see your bullet holes. You want to send your whole group to that same point of aim.

Spotting scopes are often used to find holes without having to go green and march all the way downrange, when you're sighting in.
 
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