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Hey Guys

I am looking at getting into LR shooting, have been doing a little bit of research for equipment and have come up with the following

Rifle: Remington 700 SPS Varmint .308

Scope: Sightron of some sort still trying to decide

My budget would be between 1000 - 1500

I am open to all thoughts and suggestions as this is a new adventure for myself

Also what are the different classes and what do they mean ie. F Class

Seann
 
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Look for a used .308 target rifle, Musgrave, Sportco, rebarreled Remington or something like that.
Second option (maybe the best option) would be a new Savage in .223 with a fast twist barrel. Handloading is a must for long range shooting unless you have a fat wallet.

As far as different classes here in Ontario there are several F Classes. F(M) is for manufactured off the self rifles. F/TR or F(F) is either .308 or .223 and can be custom built. F(O) is the Open Class (not really the place to start for a beginner).
 
Welcome!

Tell ya what, before you go dropping any money on a gun, it would be a terrific idea to get an idea of what you want if for and how often you will use it for that versus any other type of shooting.

The type of rifle you are looking at is a varmint rifle, meaning it is designed with a heavier longer barrel which gives added velocity and added heat resistance for shooting lots of ammo at varmints. The 308 caliber is not a great varmint caliber and that cartridge, while very popular, is not the first choice necessarily for Long Range shooting. Factory rifles like this all shoot about the same so brand is not that important and more money does NOT mean more accurate. There are some models to stay away from, and these are wicked sniper rilfe looking rigs with $300-400 price tags on them.

As far as "classes" go, F-Class is a Canadian sport designed for regular guys like you and me to use a rifle with a scope and a bipod, using a 223 or 308 and shoot at targets. It has really grown and diversified. There are two offical classes, the original FTR class for 223 and 308 only, and the more equipment-intensive "open" class for any caliber under 8mm.

A gun like yours would be fun to get you into the FTR class, BUT I would realy seriously get ahold of the Ontario Rifle Association, tell them you are interested in the sport, that you currentlty have no equipment, and you would like to see what it is all about. They will put you under the welcoming guidance of one of their folks who will set up for you to come out hen they are holding one of their excellent local "matches" or one of their introductory days.

If you want a rifle to have fun with and just get shooting, what you suggest is just fine. I would tend to suggest a 223 caliber because they do everything the 308 does, except for hunting, it has much less "energy". Energey does not matter one bit when you are trying to make a hole in paper, but too much energy can make it much hard to shoot comfortably, and that means accurately too.

If you think that getting involved in the target sport would be something you like (and you will LOVE IT) hold off on making a purchase, because you will get far better advice from people that actually participate in that kind of sport. Internet advice from anonymous internet forums can be hit and miss. Much advice comes from people with no stake in your choices, and as often as not, their advice is a way of validating their own consumer choices, not necessarily to give you the straight goods.

You would also be surprised what excellent used equipment is up for sale within those groups of people, and these can be outstanding starter rigs with custom barrels.

Remember that precision long range shooting takes a precision firearm, a skilled shooter, and proper tuned ammunition. Your results will be equal to the least of these three things, so start small, HAVE FUN, buy what YOU want, and remember what you paid for my advice.

What is sure to follow is a string of "Buy a Savage this" Buy a Remington That" or "Get a Stevens and put a barrel on it".

Seriously.... go meet real target shootersd face to face and let them show you what they use, and how they got started. They will almost certainly let you try their stuff and you can sample their rigs.... what gun store or internet forum will do that?
 
+1 on maynard and obtunded's posts, they have pretty much covered everything.

Your profile says you are in Sudbury, but I would suggest it would be well worth your time to contact the ORA (Ontario Rifle Association) and arrange to go to one of their Intro Days at CFB Borden (and I think ORA are still supplying rifles and ammo for Intro Days?). It will be well worth the three hour drive.
 
i would find a used 700 with a good stock and trigger, the sps is 600 new, a stock is between 300 and 1000 and a trigger will be about 175. the hs or mcmillan 10 fcp savages are also a good starting point and have excellent stocks and a decent adjustable trigger from new.
 
Heed the advice from Obtunded. It took me a year to decide to build/assemble one myself, learning from discussions from some fine shooters and researching the net.

Say you want to start out shooting a 1000 rounds in the first year. The cost of building precision ammo in the first year including reloading gear would exceed that value.
Therefore, for practice, do not discount the vernerable 22LR. Then burn your expensive centerfire rounds with a solid technique established. Trigger time is very important and you can learn a lot from the 22 at 100m.

I noticed Epps used rifles has a fine Savage 12 F/open rifle and it could help keep you in the budget, where you are not into doing it yourself. They are in your neighbourhood to boot. It may not be the calibre you want at this time, but you can burn it out, learn a lot and then rebarrel what you want later for less bucks than other actions (include long term cost when thinking budget). Look for some great deals here on CGN, you may find what you need and save the tax between your deals.

Have fun getting into the game...
 
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