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...been looking at websites and you tube, stainless cz-75b should be arriving in my homestead the next 6 months...I have questions:

1. can I join IPSC before my cz arrives?
2. what are the first few steps to getting myself to my first competition and actually knowing what to do and what equipment I will need?
3. are fibre optic sights legal in production class?

...thanks fella's for any info you can provide...I'll keep researching myself.
cheers,
 
It depends on where you are located for the frequency of the courses.
There are not that many instructors and we all try to fit courses into our schedules at regular intervals in the year in between the matches that we try to shoot.
Talk to your club rep and see if there are enough people in your club interested and have them get in touch with an instructor or you might have to travel a few hours to another club for the course.
Good luck
 
1. can I join IPSC before my cz arrives? Yes, but generally the membership is part of the course cost so it does not make much sense to do so
2. what are the first few steps to getting myself to my first competition and actually knowing what to do and what equipment I will need? I strongly suggest you find a local group and see what they are using. Far too many people buy equipment on a whim and regret it.
3. are fibre optic sights legal in production class? On some guns yes
 
1. Depends where you are at but as Stormbringer said, most times your IPSC fees are included in your BB course.
2. on top of what Stormbringer said, talk to your BB instructor.
3. Ditto
4. As mrclean said it is a time thing. i usually try to get 4 people together to do a course otherwise it is just not worth my time.
 
Also,

I recommend shooting for aleast 6 months prior to taking the Black Badge course...

Without some knowledge and previous lead down range, you won't know your guns quirks and like a couple of guys at my course, get fustrated with a new gun's hiccups and not finish or not pass.
 
and i would disagree with Seth, since usually just throwing lead down range without any instruction is a good way to develope bad habits like bad grip, improper tigger control, closing of one eye to name a few. if you are going to practise get some professional instruction. it will make you BB course go a hell of a lot easier.
 
I agree with Walter, especially since Walter is a BB Instructor :)
I must admit I wanted to learn how to draw and shoot before my BB, but I am glad I did not, because I learnt how to do it all the CORRECT way from the start, and not had to reteach my self. I never knew there was even a certain way to hold the pistol in order to control recoil better.

I also would suggest reading the IPSC Rulebook so you may get a better familiarization with it. Clarification then can be asked in your BB course.
http://www.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesHandgun.pdf
Oh regarding your question to fiber optic sights see Appendix D4 point 20.
 
mackattack said:
...been looking at websites and you tube, stainless cz-75b should be arriving in my homestead the next 6 months...I have questions:

1. can I join IPSC before my cz arrives?
2. what are the first few steps to getting myself to my first competition and actually knowing what to do and what equipment I will need?
3. are fibre optic sights legal in production class?

...thanks fella's for any info you can provide...I'll keep researching myself.
cheers,
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I concur with everyone above except to clarify #3 - all production guns can run F/O sights - so long as you don't alter the slide to put them on.
 
Walter Hornby said:
and i would disagree with Seth, since usually just throwing lead down range without any instruction is a good way to develope bad habits like bad grip, improper tigger control, closing of one eye to name a few. if you are going to practise get some professional instruction. it will make you BB course go a hell of a lot easier.
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Interesting, as if I can remember correctly, some shooting experience was prefered by our instructors.

While I agree it's easy to pick up bad habits on your own, It's almost impossible to visit our range as a newbie and not get tones of help from the R.O and other seasoned shooters.

A pair of shooters at my black badge showed up with new guns, an STI and a Beretta. Both had feeding issues which ended up costing another weekend or two to pass the course.

You're right though, in saying the BB makes shooting pistol alot easier, the wealth of knowledge packed into that weekend was amazing!
 
I agree with both Walter and Seth,If you are going to shoot by yourself or with people who don't know the game you are better off going into the course raw,However if you can get together with someone who knows the rules and can coach you along,a couple of months of training while you are waiting for the BB course can and will do you a world of good,the key being someone who knows what they are doing!
 
also club level matches don't require a Black Badge or membership to IPSC. It is recommended to have gone through the Black Badge course for safety reasons of course but IF the club will allow you to participate without one it will give you a better feel for the fun and excitement of IPSC. Ask at a local club near you if you can never hurts to ask..
 
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I always feel like such an elitist bastard when I give that little speech. However as an instructor it is hard when we get a person on a BB course and you ask them where they learnt that grip/stance/move etc and they tell you TV/movie/buddy and then you have to spend the whole course trying to beat it out of them. You don’t want to discourage the person by giving him to much negative feed back but you also want to make sure that he is both safe and can be “competitive” at his level. As well you have to be mindful of the rest of the students as you don’t want them to think you are spending more time on one shooter to their determent.

I would rather have a person come out a couple of times and show him some basics then have to beat the bad habits out of him on a course. Since our range takes longer to pack for then get to I usually tell people that I work for beer.
 
I agree with Walter the hardest job us instructors have is to break bad habits that have been shown by well meaning [friends] that 1; don't remember what they were taught in there own course or 2; have watched to much tv .
Do yourself a favour and get the gun you wish to use and put at least 1000 rds through it before the course and in the process make those rds shooting at an actual target and not tin cans or water jugs.
To find a course if you are in Ontario go to the IPSC ONT web page and fill out a candidate info sheet which will be forwarded to instructors in your area
 
On what azone and walter said, a week before my BB, a few friends told me several different ways to shoot main hand and weak hand only, draw etc etc. Gee am I glad I forgot what they said as soon as I did the BB course!
 
You do not have to wait 8-12 months to do your black badge course.
put a 8"x11" sheet of paper out at 20 yards. focus on sight picture and triger control. Shoot one round at a time ( no time limit just good sight picture and good trigger control , not jerking the trigger. ) do not try to shoot rapid fire.
Once you can hit the paper ever time at 20 yards you are ready for the B/B course.

It is impotent to remember tho breath and relax. No one is paying you to shoot so just have fun.
 
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