Newcommer thinking about a gun

You'll learn a lot just doing the Canada firearms safety course(s). Get signed up for that. Might as well do the hunting course too. There will still be A LOT to learn after the course(s), but you'll have your head around some of the basic terminology, making it easier to do more research. Also, likely your instructor will be very knowledgeable and happy to answer lots of questions.

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Before I bought my first firearm:
- spent 3-4 months researching the topic
- went to the range with a friend and his guns
- took the safety course
- spent 3-4 researching what gun I would like to buy
- finally bought a gun
- and finally became a gun club member

It's been a full year since I started this and I think it's been enough time to make sure that it's not a passing fancy as someone else said.

Learn about the activity before you spend your time and money.

If you're not licensed, go to the range with a mentor, then take the course and let it sink in for a while. This isn't paintball.
 
1.I live in Vancouver B.C
2.I want one so i can go to a shooting range and have some fun with it.
3.Is there a good rifle for .22 bullets? Since they are cheap.
colin455 said:
My suggestion is to make a realistic list of needs and wants.
1. Where do you live? City or rural. City needs Range membership. Rural only needs Crown Land or permission depending on if your new purchase is restricted or not.
2.What is your purpose for purchasing a new firearm? Hunting small, big game, varmint hunting or just good old target shooting? All are good reasons; just be honest. Your enjoument level will depend on it. If just paper punching, a hard kicking .300 WinMag might be too much. Plus ammunition pricing dampens usage. A .22 can be fired all day for the price of a large Pizza.
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MrIDontKnow, before you buy anything you should go to a range like "indoorshootingcentre.com" and try out different guns, before you buy one... they are close enough to Vancouver and have enough different guns for you to try...
 
Mr.IDontKnow said:
3.Is there a rifle that can shoot .22 bullets?
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Oh....

By .22, I'm assuming you mean rimfire .22's, so in theory, any rifle with a barrel diameter of .22 will shoot .22 caliber bullets.

However, what the rifle is chambered in makes a world of difference:
  • Not all of the (much) older .22 rifles will shoot .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle, only .22 (sometimes called .22 Short) due to chamber length
  • Many newer rifles shoot the .22, the .22 Long, and the .22 Long Rifle, others only shoot .22LR
  • Rifles that shoot .22LR will not shoot .22 Winchester Magnum Rifle, again due to chamber length
  • For that, you need a rifle chambered in .22WMR
  • You can't fire .22, .22 Long or .22LR out of a rifle chambered in .22WMR

If you're asking if a "sniper" rifle will shoot .22 bullets: no, I mean, why bother? A .22 lacks the range and the velocity to snipe anything.

If you're asking if there's any "black" rifles (commonly called assault rifles by the media, the anti-gun groups, and Liberal politicians) chambered in .22LR, then there are a few recently introduced models based on the AR-15 platform, like the S&W MP15-22, Colt's M4 .22 and M16 .22, and the Ruger SR-22.

Ruger's 10/22 has a truckload of aftermarket accessories to accurize and "dress it up" to resemble a black rifle.

You may want to get onto the rimfire forum and poke around. You may also want to find a mentor in your area, as has been suggested.... there are a lot of Vancouver 'nutz, and a lot of ranges out your way.

Have you started your PAL course yet? Many of your questions will be made clear when you do.

In case you aren't confused enough, some other ".22's" are: .22 BR Remington, .22 Cheetah, .22 Dasher, .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer, .22 Hornet, .22 K-Hornet, .22 PPC USA, .22 Savage High Power, .22 WCF, .22/30-30 Ackley Improved, .220 Ackley, .220 Russian, .220 Swift, .220 Weatherby Rocket, .221 Remington Fireball, .22-15-60 Stevens, .222 Remington, .222 Remington Magnum, .22-243 IMSA, .22-243 Middlestead, .22-250 Ackley Improved, .22-250 Remington, .22-284, .223 Ackley Improved, .223 Remington a.k.a the 5.56NATO you may be familiar with, .223 WSSM, .22-30 Carbine, .224 Weatherby Magnum, .225 Winchester, and .22-6mm Remington

also, see http://www.chuckhawks.com/22_rimfire_cartridges.htm

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I was just going to ask what is the different between rim fire and center fire?
Whats a good rifle that shoots all .22 bullets? I saw some 1930s.
Is there age limit for a PAL?
 
1) I was just going to ask what is the different between rim fire and center fire?
Rimfire cartridges have the primer in the rim.... centerfire in the center
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2) Whats a good rifle that shoots all .22 bullets? I saw some 1930s.
1930's?? Like old Cooeys? Don't bother with .22, it's a crappy, slow cartridge... get something chambered in .22LR, Ruger 10/22 or Marlin 39 are good little guns that will shoot well.

3) Is there age limit for a PAL?
No, you can hold it until you die :p

Seriously...
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/information/lic-per-eng.htm
For Individuals aged 12 to 17

* A Minors' Licence will enable young people to borrow a non-restricted rifle or shotgun for approved purposes such as hunting or target shooting. Generally, the minimum age is 12 years, but exceptions may be made for younger people who need to hunt to sustain themselves and their families. Applicants must have taken the Canadian Firearms Safety Course and passed the test. The fee to renew a minor’s licence is waived until May 16, 2010.
* Once a person turns 18, they are no longer eligible for a minor’s licence. Instead, they must apply for a Possession and Acquisition Licence (PAL) and pay the applicable fee. Currently, the fee only applies to the first PAL. Fees to renew a licence or modify licence privileges are waived until May 16, 2010.
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Long range...
I'm a hunter, not a target shooter, there are guys in the Precision Shooting thread who are better able to answer that. I understand that the .22-250 is considered to be a good chambering for long range target shooting, as is the .223 (in "hunting" cartridges, the 6.5mm, .375 H&H, .300 Win Mag come to mind, even the .308 and 30-06 will get you there with practice.)

Accurate...
there's a difference between match and hunting bullets.... while match bullets are inherently more accurate due to design, they are only as good as the hands holding the rifle.
For example, I've got a buddy who shot a running cow elk at 400 yards, shooting a Model 70 in .270Win off-hand with hand-loaded Hornady 150 grain BTSP's over H4831 powder, the elk was bang-flop... and I've got another buddy who blew both front legs off a 5x5 elk, inside 100 yards with two shots from a .35Whelan.
 
What gun you use to hunt?
droid1963 said:
Long range...
I'm a hunter, not a target shooter, there are guys in the Precision Shooting thread who are better able to answer that. I understand that the .22-250 is considered to be a good chambering for long range target shooting, as is the .223 (in "hunting" cartridges, the 6.5mm, .375 H&H, .300 Win Mag come to mind, even the .308 and 30-06 will get you there with practice.)
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H2SNOW said:
One question scooter ?? where do you live ?..and what is your interest in firearms ? have you ever gone hunting before ??

have you ever shot something in order to eat it ??

do you come from a back ground related to firearms ?? or is all of a sudden cool to do so ??

just a few questions ..just because I happen to have grown up on a trapline in the middle of nowhere and went to town 3 times a year by plane .........soo in short a smoke stick was an integral part of life .....


just keep your priorities straight ....

I happen to use mine for sustenance ..not for fun or boredom .....

I may regret this however I am of this stand point.
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When you went to town by plane was it always uphill both ways in 4 feet of snow????

Piss off......

he was probably asking a question but is gone now...


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droid1963 said:
A Winchester Model 70 in 30-06, a Remington Model 700 Mountain Rifle in .260Rem, a Marlin Model 1895SS in 45/70Gov't, a Savage Model 24 in .22WMR over .410 bore, or a 12gauge depending on what species/terrain.
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Why so many cals.....

Where do you live?? Why have so many different guns to hunt with (I am only asuming you are in North America, if you are not, disreguard this).

This will add to the thread.
 
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