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Okay it looks like the .270 is a no brainer. Some other good suggestions but we want to keep things simple.

Budget is about $500 for gun and scope. Looking at the Mossberg 100 ATR which ranges from $397 to $472 depending on barrel and stock finish. Savage also makes a similar package for sale at SIR for $399.

I've had a forum member contact me with this gun for sale...

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233823&highlight=Mauser+.270

I don't know enough about rifles to know if something like this is a better gun then the new lower price Mossbergs etc.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
 
Do a search on this topic and there will be lots of threads to keep you reading for a few days...

Coles notes version....

Savage/Stevens ... great deal for the $$$


Ryan
 
I don't think a 240 fills the bill.
due to lack of heavy bullets, it is no tmor ethan a deer rifle.
(yes, I know it did take almost everything; don't flood my in-box with hate-mail)
joe average should take a heavier bullet on large game than the 150 grainer.
IF some ammo maker would offer a 175 grainer, the 270 would be legit in my book.
 
stevens 200 hands down with a good scope....unreal accuracy for the price...stock is a little sharp around the edges but for $309 plus tax (s.i.r.)
you cant go wrong.....its basically a savage 110 without the accu trigger and a synthetic stock!
 
The mauser that you have offered to you would be a very good rifle. Much better than the Mossberg you have mentioned. I just don't like the very high rings. If I was to buy it, I'd find a set of rings that got the scope down closer to the barrel, to where it matches up with your eye, with a good cheek weld. The Mauser may be a bit heavy, but it'll do a good job. Good luck, Eric
 
I don't know what you plan on hunting but the 270 is a great deer rifle. Not enough detail on the Mauser. I can't see clearly whether the see-through mounts are for obtaining clearance for the safety as the barrel is clean (No open sights) With the scope it is my idea of the better deal at $400.00.
 
i think you can do better than that Mauser for a first gun for your kid.
the way that scope is mounted is giving me a headache just looking at it.

the problem with the Savage package gun is that the Savage long action is very long - 1/2" longer at least than the Remmy long action. ideally you will want a weaver rail on there on a .270 so your son can move the scope back far enough. the scope, rings and bases are also very cheap.

IMO scrape together another $100, get a Stevens 200 in .270, a 1-piece steel weaver rail, some Warne Maxima TPA rings, and something like a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7x or 3-9x scope, or worst case if budget is really tight a Bushnell Legend.
 
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that depends on whether the buyer knows enough about guns to recognize a good deal and the seller is completely honest. unless you are buying from a truly reputable person, buying a used gun always carries some risk.

buying a new one, you 100% know what youre going to get, even if it has less 'potential' than a used gun. Savage/Stevens also has an excellent warranty - i had an issue with my mag and they rush couriered me a new one from the states to my doorstep 2 days later.

not saying this is an issue with the above mentioned gun, but with some older guns the simplest things like swapping scope rings/bases can also become a time consuming/expensive endeavor.
 
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I dont think you will go wrong with one of the packages, the scope is not the best but down the road you can get another one when funds allow.
I have had a 3x9 tasco (made in china) on my 722 222 for over two years with no problems. I am just putting a use 3x9 leopuld on now.

I know E&I sports in PG was selling the savage package for 449.99 a while ago.

You have too check these things out yourself but buying new does take some of the work out of it.

Larry
 
manbearpig said:
that depends on whether the buyer knows enough about guns to recognize a good deal and the seller is completely honest. unless you are buying from a truly reputable person, buying a used gun always carries some risk.

buying a new one, you 100% know what youre going to get, even if it has less 'potential' than a used gun. Savage/Stevens also has an excellent warranty - i had an issue with my mag and they rush couriered me a new one from the states to my doorstep 2 days later.

not saying this is an issue with the above mentioned gun, but with some older guns the simplest things like swapping scope rings/bases can also become a time consuming/expensive endeavor.
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This would be my issue. For a first gun I'm more inclined to buy something that is ready to go without having to try and piece it together and set it up etc. That's what attracts me to the Savage package.

Dave
 
pgpapa said:
I dont think you will go wrong with one of the packages, the scope is not the best but down the road you can get another one when funds allow.
I have had a 3x9 tasco (made in china) on my 722 222 for over two years with no problems. I am just putting a use 3x9 leopuld on now.

I know E&I sports in PG was selling the savage package for 449.99 a while ago.

You have too check these things out yourself but buying new does take some of the work out of it.

Larry
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its not just the scope, but the flimsy aluminum mounts.
do a search, youll find nothing but people complaining about them and how they replaced them almost immediately.

add the fact that 2-piece bases are a bad idea on the extra long Savage receivers, especially the long actions, it gets worse. you need either a 1-piece rail or some sortof offset ring/base or youll be shooting hunched forward over your rifle like quasimodo trying to see through your scope. people either complain about the rings failing to hold the scope securely and/or not being able to move the scope far enough back.

any way i look at it though a 1-piece rail and good weaver rings will cost you over $100. a cheaper and more elegant solution is to look on the EE for a good used LONG TUBE scope. that will allow you to comfortably mount your scope in standard rings like the inexpensive and solid Leupold dovetail rings/bases. there are some good older long tube scopes around, and something like a Leupold is covered by a lifetime warranty regardless of its age.

the absolute least youll have to do with the package rifle is replace the rings, so thats another $30-40 or so, and it still wont solve the eye relief issue. so at this point you are spending nearly $450 and still dont have an optimal setup - IMO you can do better with a Stevens and buying a proper scope/rings for it.
 
SuperCub said:
Need to up the budget a bit.

Be patient and look for a good used 270 on the EE. A good deal on a scope will come there as well.

It's a much better deal to buy a quality used rifle than a cheap new rifle.

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Agreed x2

My suggestion would be to plan for a Tikka T3 (or a nice used Tikka 695 if you can find one), Warne Maxima rings and a Leupold or Bushnell Elite 3200 (or 4200) scope. If you buy quality it will serve you a lifetime. Sure, it'll cost about double what your son has saved, but perhaps you can consider it a joint venture.:)
 
btw, have you considered a .308?
you can get widely available & inexpensive managed recoil loads for it that tame the recoil to below .243 levels and he has room to grow into it. its also a short action so you will have less problems mounting any modern compact scope. will also be a bit smaller.

25 - LeBaron Club card
290 - Stevens 200
196 - Bushnell 3200 Elite 3-9x40mm or 2-7x32mm
18 - Leupold STD 1-piece or 2-piece base(s)
23 - Leupold STD rings
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552 + tax

youll also save 10% on anything else you buy there for a year. not such a big deal on a $20 scope base, but a nice savings if youre buying a $1000 gun.
 
manbearpig said:
btw, have you considered a .308?
you can get widely available & inexpensive managed recoil loads for it that tame the recoil to below .243 levels and he has room to grow into it. its also a short action so you will have less problems mounting any modern compact scope. will also be a bit smaller.

25 - LeBaron Club card
290 - Stevens 200
196 - Bushnell 3200 Elite 3-9x40mm or 2-7x32mm
18 - Leupold STD 1-piece or 2-piece base(s)
23 - Leupold STD rings
________________
552 + tax

youll also save 10% on anything else you buy there for a year. not such a big deal on a $20 scope base, but a nice savings if youre buying a $1000 gun.
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Great suggestion! Now you have a garanteed tack driver! I still like the .270 though. It just sooo ###y.;)
 
If you are absolute about staying within your budget check out a weatherby vangaurd package. Synthetic stock, Leupold rings, Bushnell 3-9 scope and a case for under $500. Also comes with a test target to prove under 1 moa from the factory. I personally don't like the feel of the forestock but I know a lot of guys that do.

For a little more money you can get into a remington 700 sps stainless for about $650 plus scope. Personally I love these guns (and the price) however I am a Remington nut.

The used market is a good way to go especially if you have a little time on your hands to wait for the right deal on the right calibre.
 
manbearpig said:
btw, have you considered a .308?
you can get widely available & inexpensive managed recoil loads for it that tame the recoil to below .243 levels and he has room to grow into it. its also a short action so you will have less problems mounting any modern compact scope. will also be a bit smaller.

25 - LeBaron Club card
290 - Stevens 200
196 - Bushnell 3200 Elite 3-9x40mm or 2-7x32mm
18 - Leupold STD 1-piece or 2-piece base(s)
23 - Leupold STD rings
________________
552 + tax

youll also save 10% on anything else you buy there for a year. not such a big deal on a $20 scope base, but a nice savings if youre buying a $1000 gun.
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.270 is the largest calibre allowed for hunting in the area where I live.

Dave
 
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