nice accessory set for Vz. 52/57 owners

[Tudenom]

I figured any Vz. 52 or Vz. 52/57 guys around here might be interested in this. I was told that the com block SKS stripper clips don't work on the Vz. 52 or the Vz. 52/57.

They look like good stuff, kind of a mauser stripper clip copy.


http://cgi.ebay.ca/Czech-Vz52-Vz-52...098170027QQcategoryZ13982QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[ilovepotatos]

I like how he just makes up the cartridge dimensions.

"7.62x45 ammunition".

I believe he means 7.5x45.

 

[green]

7.62x45 was the ctg for the VZ52

 

[Stevo]

I like how he just makes up the cartridge dimensions.

"7.62x45 ammunition".

I believe he means 7.5x45.

The World Guns page on the Vz. 52 is wrong. 7.62x45mm is the correct cartridge.

 

[eos]

The 7.62x45 strippers work just fine with the 7.62x39 / Vz52/57 combination. SKS strippers on Czech ammo were for loading the Vz58

 

[tootall]

Very seldom does Max make a mistake. I consider WorldGuns.ru one of the better sites.



Caliber: 7.5x45 mm Vz.52 or 7.62x39mm M43 (vz.52/57)
Overall length: 1015 mm
Barrel length: 520 mm
Weight: 4.08 kg empty
Magazine capacity: 10 rounds

The Czechoslovak army recognized the need for intermediate cartridge, and by the 1952 perfected and adopted the 7.5x45mm Vz.52 ammunition and two infantry weapons for it, the Vz.52 semiautomatic carbine and Vz.52 light machine gun. The 7.5x45mm ammunition is slightly more powerful than the Soviet 7.62x39mm ammunition, and has slightly better long-range performance. By the mid-1950s Czechs had the 7.5mm fully automatic rifle in development, but, under the pressure of Warsaw pact standardization, enforced by Soviet Union, Czechoslovak army ended up adopting soviet 7.62x39mm ammunition as a standard in 1957. Consequently, they rebarelled their machine guns and carbines for "new" ammunition, but the modified Vz.52/57 carbines not stayed in service for too long. Since the late 1950s they were gradually replaced in service with 7.62x39mm SA Vz.58 assault rifles. Many of Vz.52 and Vz.52/57 carbines were exported and sold as surplus, and can be encountered in various parts of the world.

 

[Beater]

thoase look like standard mauser strippers to me.

 

[cz52]

OK, so what is the correct caliber, 7.62x45 or 7.5x45?

 

[DaveGP]

Correct caliber is 7.62x45....

 

[cz52]

Thank you!

 

[ilovepotatos]

Very seldom does Max make a mistake. I consider WorldGuns.ru one of the better sites.

I use that site as a bible, so I'd have to agree.

So what's the verdict on this cartridge then? Is it a good one or what?

 

[Quiet]

I shot a shopping bag worth of this 7.62x45 back when it was readily available from Century.
They were available in brass and steel cartridge cases.
I sliced some of the bullets through lengthwise, and they had a steel core, a layer of lead and a copper coated steel jacket, similar to the 7.62x39.
It had basically the same accuracy as the Czech 7.62x39, but a little bit more powerful, and it was very corrosive ammo.

The Vz52 never had a stoppage while I shot it and recoil of the 7.62x45 was mild. It hit where it was supposed to according to the sight graduations. In contrast, the 7.62x39 in the Vz52/57, always seemed to hit low.

The extra power of the 7.62x45 made it a better cartridge, but I guess this advantage is not enough to make up for its lack of availability.