Night force optics?

The Cleaner said:
Ok, let me re-frays that. I’m just learning all this stuff. Is it possible for a scope to work from 100-900 meters?
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I'm learning too, and like you I've sought after a scope that would do it all and I've gone that route. That said, for what it cost I could have purchased 3 less versatile scopes each suited to a specific application. More than one way to skin a cat, none of em are cheap.:(
 
The Cleaner said:
Ok, let me re-frays that. I’m just learning all this stuff. Is it possible for a scope to work from 100-900 meters?
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Absolutely. That is why they have variable power scopes with Adjustable Objectives or side focuses. Buy Nightforce and You will never look back.
 
Having some Nightforce equipped rifles, some sporting Leupold MK4s and now a couple of US Optics SN9s in my fleet, all I can tell you is that each scope has its plus's and minus's. The Nightforce scopes are big, clear and a bit more spendy than the MK4s, a difference in clarity? I doubt the human eye can tell. The difference in available come ups is dependant on the magification level of the scope, in typical design scopes as the Leupold and NF the erector tube is inside the main tube and the higher the maginfication and the thicker the tube , the less adjustment is available. In the HUGE SN9s the adjustments are on the outside of the tube, my new 10x42x58 US Optics has 200 MOA built into the scope, add that to the 45 MOA canted rail and presto I can hold right on out to 2.5 MILES with my 50. The biggest downsides to the US O's is sheer cost $(5500.00) size at nearly 3 feet long and weight at 6 lbs, optically they are incredibly clear, best I have ever seen, but practical, not really.
I would suggest either a MK4 or the NF for 99.9% of the shooting situations 1 is likely ot encounter, mostly for cost effectiveness and size
 
The Cleaner, the 5.5x-22x will do everything you want. Everything from hunting to target shooting, from 50 metres to a kilometre.

Not a great scope for CQB ;-)
 
Splatter said:
The Cleaner, the 5.5x-22x will do everything you want. Everything from hunting to target shooting, from 50 metres to a kilometre.

Not a great scope for CQB ;-)
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Very true, probably the best all round scope they make.
To go further long range you may feel more magnification is needed, but then the other sacrifices kick in.
 
Splatter said:
The Cleaner, the 5.5x-22x will do everything you want. Everything from hunting to target shooting, from 50 metres to a kilometre.

Not a great scope for CQB ;-)
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I would agree the 5.5-22x is a fine scope and Nightforce is providing an excellent product.

To date, I've only had one USO scope and it was a huge disappointment. Now we all know every factory can have a bad day and thats what they must have had because not every scope could be that bad.

Having the cash in hand and shopping is great isn't it...
 
### International said:
To date, I've only had one USO scope and it was a huge disappointment. Now we all know every factory can have a bad day and thats what they must have had because not every scope could be that bad.

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Joe was this direct personal experience? How long ago? How did US O look after it, they seem to be pretty solid in customer service, but any info would be appreciated. Having just taken on distributorship for the line , to have an idea of potential problems would be an asset. All I have found to date is praise, and having little time yet to play with the scopes I bought , all I can say is clearest optics I have ever seen, but until I get some range time, won't be able to comment much further.
 
On the US Optics issues, I had one, an ST-10 and had some problems with it, but that was when John Williams SR. was still alive, his customer service and personality were something, but since his son has taken over, due to SR's death, the direction of the company as a whole has come full cirlce and John JR is very customer oriented. Rick, gald to see you are a distrubutor, I can't wait to see that monster on one of your monster's.
 
We've been bringing in USO products for about 2 years now. After the recent experience it will be a while longer before we consider their scope line again. They are great people to deal with and I suspect the unit was just a lemon, probably the most expensive lemon around. There are many happy customers out there so they are doing something right.

In extreme war service I suspect their scopes are right on top. We will be looking at a few other lines in the meanwhile.

Good to see you expanding line. Perhaps one day we can look forward to you sponsoring this board as well.
 
I have not had dealing s with John Sr, John Jr however is 1 of the nicest guys I have had the pleasure to deal with. This is as stated a new line for me, so far all seems good, service is fast and the guys at USO seem to bend over backwards to try and accomodate me. As with all relationships however time will really tell the story. Any info on good or bad would be welcome.
 
How does the Nightforce 5.5-22X NXS compare to the Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x40mm Long Range (with the varmint reticle)?

I'm thinking of what would be the best choice for a TRG 21, to be used for punching paper out to its useful range.

The Nightforce looks like it's probably the most recommended choice, but is the Leupold that much "less" of a scope for almost half the price? (and does the Nightforce have that much "more" to offer? - if so, what can a guy expect? better clarity? resolution? more rugged scope?)

With the Nightforce, what's the advantage (if any) between the 50mm and 56mm objective?
 
A-zone said:
How does the Nightforce 5.5-22X NXS compare to the Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x40mm Long Range (with the varmint reticle)?

I'm thinking of what would be the best choice for a TRG 21, to be used for punching paper out to its useful range.

The Nightforce looks like it's probably the most recommended choice, but is the Leupold that much "less" of a scope for almost half the price? (and does the Nightforce have that much "more" to offer? - if so, what can a guy expect? better clarity? resolution? more rugged scope?)

With the Nightforce, what's the advantage (if any) between the 50mm and 56mm objective?
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I have a TRG 21 with a NF 5.5-22X56 and the combination is working out very well.
I own one MK 4 6-20x50 and two NF 5.5-22x56s and there are very few advantages to either. After having both scopes at the range I decided to take a closer look for comparison.

My findings were minor to say the least. The glass is very good on both in fact it was inconclusive to me which one was better. They both track very well and return to zero perfectly. The edge went to Nightforce in terms of adjustments, the clicks were slightly more audible and more crisp(less creep). The leupold is more compact and quite a bit lighter. I like the Nightforce mildots better because they are more of circles that you can see through rather than a solid dot. The Nightforce MLR reticle is better than both of them. There is virtually no difference between the 50mm and 56 mm objectives.

My conclusion was as a range rifle, I would put the Nightforce on it, but for a field rifle, especially hunting, I would go for the Leupold.

Ivo
 
I have a nighforce 5.5X22X56 with optilock rings/bases on my .22-250 T3. With the NPR2 reticle. Great for ranging coyotes, and shooting gophers in the lips. I have a elite4200 6-23x40 on my .204 and everytime I go from one to the other I wanna throw the elite into the bush... (I know its over 3 times the amount but thats how I feel)....

So far its a smokin optic..... Im gonna buy another when they come out with the NPR1 reticle this summer.\

Brad
 
That Leupy knock-off is lookin' better all the time, eh? ;)

As much as I like a bargain, there are some rifles and some types of shooting where the extra expense is the better long-term choice. (Think of it as "short-term pain, long-term gain.)

On the other hand, if your budget just doesn't make this kind of expense realistic at this time, there are lots of other "good" alternatives.

In that vein, a friend of mine shared the results of his recent range visit with the Leupy clone (on a Savage HB .308). Shooting out to 300 yards, he was able to produce multiple sub-MOA groups with his rifle (relying on the scope's pre-set adjustments). Mind you, he's a very talented shooter.

I think I'm going to save my pennies and probably pop for the 5.5-22 x 50 Nightforce for my "special" .308. Hey, you only live once. Might as well have superior optics.;)
 
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Yes I know there are times when you should buy a decent scope but when you make like less then $40k a year with bills out of your ass, it's hard to make that kind of purchase and still expect to have some extra cash for other stuff.

I bought a cheap Bushnell Elite 3200 for like $280 and that took me days to decide to make a purchase like that. I am sure it will be good enough. Heck, I have had 2 guns for a few days now and not even shot them because there is no place to shoot for a resonable price.
 
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