Nightforce
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http://www.albertatacticalrifle.com caries em
knockturnal
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Alberta tactical. Great guys to deal with. Look them up. I think they are on the dealer list here
knockturnal
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Check the EE too
Hirsch Precision, Corlane Sports, P&D, ### International, Alberta Tactical Rifle, Bashaw Sports etc, all carry them. Compare prices and confirm the dealer support for any warranty issues, which requires shipment of the scope to the US (not easy to do for the general public and should be handled by the dealer). CAD prices for NF scopes are disproportionatly high compared to prices in the US, so it pays to shop around ?
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- calgary alberta
You beat me to it.
A word of caution for those who are buying NF grey market NF product from unauthorized dealers.
NF keeps records of serial numbers, should you require warranty repair and the serial number can not be tracked to a legal export to a Canadian dealer, it can tie up the return of your scope for some time.
What is the grey or gray market stuff mean anyway?
If I buy a new scope from a dealer, do I send the scope back to them or where f(or repair or inspection)? The dealer flips the bill for all USA shipping and return to me?
Are scopes (other than price) andy different then scope rings. Look at all the grey market dealers on those and other products.
The have only heard of one Nightforce scope going back for warranty repair. Pretty good product so why pay the premium.
Isn't the shooting edge the only one who advertises Nightforce prices? Now seriously why aren't the other dealers showing their prices on the website?
All mfgs who have warranty and serial number their product keep records. If I move from the USA or Europe to Canada and bring my scope the warranty is void? Lets get real!
If I buy a new scope from a dealer, do I send the scope back to them or where f(or repair or inspection)? The dealer flips the bill for all USA shipping and return to me?
Are scopes (other than price) andy different then scope rings. Look at all the grey market dealers on those and other products.
The have only heard of one Nightforce scope going back for warranty repair. Pretty good product so why pay the premium.
Isn't the shooting edge the only one who advertises Nightforce prices? Now seriously why aren't the other dealers showing their prices on the website?
All mfgs who have warranty and serial number their product keep records. If I move from the USA or Europe to Canada and bring my scope the warranty is void? Lets get real!
Grey market means its was not brought in through an authorized Nightforce Canadian dealer and this may result warranty and service issues as it is required to be sent back. Depending on the dealer and the product they may accept the product back and ship it at their expense back to the USA for warranty. I'm not sure what reference your making between scopes and rings but in the case of high end rings like Nightforce they also would normally come via an authorized dealer. There are counterfeit scopes and rings on the market and by buying from an authorized dealer you are assured it's the real deal. I don't know what reference you are making to paying premium as most scopes are being sold near MSRP in Canada however if you importing it from the USA then you as the importer and the dealer (exporter) in the USA would have to get the required permits so as not to break US laws. If you check our web site you will see all our optics prices including Nightforce. Phil.
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Grey market , meaning scopes that are shipped up from US dealers either with or normally without export permits.
NF has established a fixed number of "authorized dealers" in Canada, so scopes being supplied by dealers other than the authorized few that NF advertises as Authorized Canadian dealers are just that, grey market.
NFs warranty return rate IS very low but I believe it is still nice to have a no hassle warranty, and the fact is that if the scope has no supporting documentation from original suppplier it IS harder to get it back and forth across the border. If you were to move 1 would hope you would retain your records so as ANY manufacturers warranty that was in need of use would then be easier to document.
At NO point did anyone say the warranty would be void, so let us stick to the facts of what was posted.
I can not speak for all dealers but with the Cdn dollar fluctuating by the moment I have more important things to do in my day than to continually update pricing on my website.
Stick to the facts?
It was only a question, no need to try to get pushy.
I didn't think it would be a problem for retailers to post their current inventory prices but I could see that being a potential problem if the retailer doesn't have IT support.
So if someone buys a scope from ATR, P&D or Hirsch Precision, and has a warranty issue, does each seller cover all the costs from your their store to the USA and back? I appreciate the responses and I look forward to hearing back on this question. Certainly if this is the case, it would support not purchasing grey market...
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Why would all the shipping be the responsibility of the retailer??
Shipping is NOT covered with ANY other commodities warranty.
All I am trying to tell you is that IF you buy a NF scope from 1 of the NF authorized dealers and have a warranty issue, being that the serial number was recorded by NF as being legally exported (with export permit as required by Dept of State) there is ALOT greater chance of it being returned in short order, rather than having to get permits both to export from Canada as required by law, and then again from the Dept of State as required by law.
Part of the agreement with NF that we have is to maintain permits in order to legally ship scopes back if warranty requires it.
Smuggling or illegal imports/exports are much easier to get away with if the same item is not repeatedly shipped back and forth across the borders.
BigUglyMan
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Dude, you're stunned. Check around and you'll find that Rick supports his customers very well.
If you've got questions to ask specific retailers, ask them. But don't try to get people throwing dirt at each other. That's just apt to make someone less diplomatic than myself to say a bad work at you.
In past discussions with Rick, he has been willing to help facilitate changes for NF scopes (reticle changes, zero stops added), services that he does not offer but again is willing to help facilitate. Go to almost any dealer and you will have to pay for warranty shipping, regardless of product (Bushnell, Leupold, etc). In most cases, you will have to pay return shipping as well. So why deal with authorized dealers ? Because you know products are legit, the dealers are usually more knowledgeable in answering questions, and in some cases, they have permits or agreements in place that either can facilitate or expedite work to be done.
As a question, have you ever dealt with Rick on ANY basis other that run your mouth presumptuously here on CGN ?
I bought one from ATRS and one from Hirsch precision. Both were great to deal with. The advantage of supporting legit dealers is it will help them be around in the future.They carry alot more than just Nightforce and provide other services.Without support these guys wouldn't be around and then everyone would be belly aching about no product and service available in Canada. As far as warranty goes it is completely unrealistic to expect a dealer to cover the shipping( unless the unit sent to you was defective from the get-go). If this happened I am sure they would just ship you a new unit from their inventory and return the other to NF.
Greenpasture
I would hope you would become a dealer so you would provide the support you talk about.I think you would go bankrupt pretty fast though as you seem to be completely unrealistic as well as naive.These guys are probably only making a few hundred dollars on a $2000 dollar purchase. They have all this money tied up in stock,pay rent/mortgage,heat,hydro,taxes etc etc etc.I think they are entitled to make a profit.By your standards these guys would have a hard time feeding their families.
Greenpasture
I would hope you would become a dealer so you would provide the support you talk about.I think you would go bankrupt pretty fast though as you seem to be completely unrealistic as well as naive.These guys are probably only making a few hundred dollars on a $2000 dollar purchase. They have all this money tied up in stock,pay rent/mortgage,heat,hydro,taxes etc etc etc.I think they are entitled to make a profit.By your standards these guys would have a hard time feeding their families.
