Nightvision on Tavor Completed! *VIDEO*

TV-PressPass said:
I'm actually on your side with this. When I get my shorty barrel I think the full rail will live on it and regular can-am rail will stay on the full-size.
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I personally like the vanilla short rail/factory BUIS, but that's just me. ;)

TV-PressPass said:
He's right, but Blaxsun you can run an NVD behind some powered scopes. Thats why all the vortex PST's have their lowest 3 brightness settings as invisible. Does it work well? I haven't gotten that far yet! But I think the problem with the spectre's is their brightness is either on strong or off entirely.

The other issue will be eye relief. The PST 1-4 has tons, but an ACOG or HAMR you'd have to have your NVD kissing the glass.
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I haven't tried with either my ACOG or Elcan, to be honest. I just stuck with my Aimpoint Micro based on the reports of failed attempts from other NV users.
 
blaxsun said:
I personally like the vanilla short rail/factory BUIS, but that's just me. ;)



I haven't tried with either my ACOG or Elcan, to be honest. I just stuck with my Aimpoint Micro based on the reports of failed attempts from other NV users.
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i tried a PVS-14 with the Spectre DR... it sucked balls....i really want a PVS-22 for my LMT308MWS with the 1.5-6X DR, it's just trying to get one is all:(
 
You mentioned that your Eotech is the basic 512 model, but is it the NV friendly version? If I remember correctly if it's not the NV version it may burn a dot into the night vision device.

I don't think I heard you mention it or not in your video.
 
alexD92 said:
You mentioned that your Eotech is the basic 512 model, but is it the NV friendly version? If I remember correctly if it's not the NV version it may burn a dot into the night vision device.

I don't think I heard you mention it or not in your video.
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You will get image burn, even if it is NV rated. I had this discussion on AR15.com about 5-6 years ago. The only answer available at that point is to turn on the NV and leave it in complete darkness, ie. a box, overnight. The burned in image will 'probably' go away in 8-10 hours. This is the described method to get rid of the image by the manufacturer and by the US military.

My query was; how about the privately owned units where the owners didn't want the extra run time on their very expensive NV? There was no reply.

Be careful with Eotech and NV, or any light source even if rated as an "NV" setting. If used in a tandem setting, there is a strong possibility of image burn.
 
Be careful with Eotech and NV, or any light source even if rated as an "NV" setting. If used in a tandem setting, there is a strong possibility of image burn.
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This is what I understood to be the case too. It's something I keep an eye on. As my unit does not have the NV button.

From what I understood the NV button was primarily a quick switch between bright and low. Maybe there are some more low modes in there, but I took the sight I have off the EE for $250 so at that point I wasn't picking and choosing.

LoydM was asking
Have you ever tried wearing the night vision on your head while shooting rather than mounting it on the rifle.

Mounting it on the rifle should keep everything more solid while shooting, but if you wear the night vision it should make life easier the rest of the time you are not shooting - when you are just moving around, etc.
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And I havent done that. I do have a pretty mediocore gen-1 tube with a head mount, but the gen 2 I think would get heavy without a really good rig. That and I think you'd have a hard time running most optics with a head-mounted NVD though.

But when I was running this project by one of my forces buddies thats what he described as a good option rather than trying to get the eotech at height:

IR laser on the side and NVD on your face.

If the opportunity arises I would still love to try out a laser setup. Any idea where to find those in Canada icedragon? I checked their where to buy and we're conspicuously absent.
 
It is a Russian manufacture,as US made stuff is hard to export from the US (IR illum laser)- ht tp://www.knesekguns.com/commercial/pages/ImportExport-Services

Just a safety warning too as it is a 3b laser type unit (lots of power for 1000y etc)- ht tp://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=271728&Number=3084276#Post3084276 mine was the 90mw unit;)
 
pbr streetgang said:
the PVS-14 style will not work with the Elcan when it is on 4X.
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Sorry, I have to disagree with you. With the PVS14 mounted this way, I get a fantastic sight picture on either the 1X or 4X. I've done the same thing with the old C79 Elcan, and obtained great results as well.

As a matter of fact, I've purchased a couple of C79 scopes with the reticule burned out specifically for the PVS14. Even the Tritium will burn an image, however with the reticule no longer glowing, I get a very good image with proper reticule.

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Sorry, not trying to hijack the post:redface:
 
No sir, you just won the thread!!!

This guy has his #### together. Blaxun and PBR should definitely see this.

Are you running that surefire as an IR lamp? Does your unit need it? Mine definitely does to get out past the 25 yard-line. What kind of quality do you get out of your PVS-14? I'm curious as the ATN unit I'm running is far from military quality, but a damn good price. They retail for $1500 and I paid $900 for my gen 2+ setup.

I want to try it with the moon tonight and see if I still need the IR assistance at all.
 
TV-PressPass said:
No sir, you just won the thread!!!

This guy has his s**t together. Blaxun and PBR should definitely see this.

Are you running that surefire as an IR lamp? Does your unit need it? Mine definitely does to get out past the 25 yard-line. What kind of quality do you get out of your PVS-14? I'm curious as the ATN unit I'm running is far from military quality, but a damn good price. They retail for $1500 and I paid $900 for my gen 2+ setup.

I want to try it with the moon tonight and see if I still need the IR assistance at all.
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Actually the Surefire is the relatively (1 year old) new Vampire. It is both a very good visible, AND IR (also very good) light. Simply turn the head/bazel of the light. It is fairly expensive, new $500, but is the best all 'round light I own.

Here is the assortment of IR lights I've got and the Vampire is the best. The Russian "Torch" is a very bright dedicated IR light, but the Vampire is almost as bright, but is an 'all in one' light, and that has huge advantages. So I had to grab a couple of them:redface:

The Vampire is the one second from right, it's the same one as my tan one in the photo except with a different mount. Same light.

L-R : Weakest IR light to strongest.
Insight Technology M3 IR
Surefire 9P with IR filter
Surefire M1 dedicated IR
Surefire Vampire Visible light and IR
The Torch dedicated IR

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You can kind of make out the makings on the Vampire head. The IR arrow turns to the left, with the visible light arrow to the right. Simply turn the head for what ever light you want. The visible is at least as bright as the 9P.
 
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