Nitro proofed
- Thread starter brybenn
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I like rst because i can get #6 in 2.5" to be legal for turkey hunting. Theyre said to be low pressure but they offer decent recoil. Much more than my reloads but they pattern well and work for small game and pheasants
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Kent Canada usually piggybacks on the American Kent’s Gamebore order as I understand it there will not be an order due to Covid issues this year, I am speculating but with the ammo Frenzy going on it is likely much more profitable for the Americans to be stocking popular loads than obscure European stuff.
I have had good luck with the 2.5” Target loads , still debating what to order from PR as far as RST shells. The RWS shells that are available from a few dealers are actually 2 9/16 hulls with the more traditional European loading.
I recently cleaned my small local shop out of Puregold 2.5” 6s.
One thing to keep in mind is the European sizes are one size smaller than ours euro 6s are actually 7s to us.
I have had good luck with the 2.5” Target loads , still debating what to order from PR as far as RST shells. The RWS shells that are available from a few dealers are actually 2 9/16 hulls with the more traditional European loading.
I recently cleaned my small local shop out of Puregold 2.5” 6s.
One thing to keep in mind is the European sizes are one size smaller than ours euro 6s are actually 7s to us.
BNP is British national proof.
I would guess that these are some European proof markings, they would be the original barrel proofs and the BNP, Sleeved, etc marks were applied later when the gun was sleeved in Britain at a more recent time. There is also some characters in a circle on the left barrel which may be a maker's mark, similar to HAL for Lindner barrels. I've seen these before but never attempted to decode them. It was not unusual for some British makers to use barrel tubes purchased in other countries such as Belgium, Spain, Germany, etc and these carried the original Provisional or initial proof of that country. Before the gun being sold in Britain those barrels would still need to pass British proof and be so marked. My references on European proofs is pretty scant but I suspect that these may be Spanish. I'll see what I can dig up. J.
Snider shooter, BNP is British Nitro Proof, not British National Proof. This was ( and is) the proof mark signifying that the barrel passed proof with the modern equivalent smokeless powders still in common use today and withstood those pressures.
BigUglyMan
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####, that's not bad at all! I've got an old Coggie sidelock that needs some 2.5" shells.
Then again, I also need to get more than 0 days in the field too!
At 3 1/4 tonnes per square inch what would that work out to for modern loads? Its a very light trim shotgun which will never see any heavy or magnum loads as i dont want to stress the wrist or head. The original damascus barrels are also nitro proofed as 1 1/8 oz maximum
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I believe the crown/1 is actually a crown/P. This is the symbol for London proof. the crown/V means "view" which means the barrels have passed a visual inspection. The bore diameters are stamped on the flats... my W&C Scott is the same way. 12 in a diamond means it's chambered as a 12-bore. I'm not sure of the H3(?) in a circle. The barrels are sleeved, which you probably already know means the original barrels were cut off and new tubes brazed into the leftover breech end. This was a relatively inexpensive way to rebarrel as opposed to making up set with new lumps.
1 1/8 or 1 1/8 oz signifies a 2 1/2" chamber. 1 1/4 or 1 1/4 oz means a 2 3/4" chamber. The intended operating pressures and velocities are the same for both. The longer chamber (and shell) allow for a heavier payload of shot, that's all. It's not uncommon to find guns in North America which have had their 2 1/2" (1 1/8") chambers lengthened to 2 3/4" in the belief that this gun would then be safer with 2 3/4" North American loads. Unfortunately such a gun is now sometimes used with North American ammo of much higher pressure than the gun was designed or made for. This can compromise barrel wall thickness right where the pressure and strain is greatest. Britain and Europe require that such a gun must pass proof for the new load before it can legally be sold. No proof here = unknown margin of safety. And you can't trust the markings to be true, just as with bore sizes and choke constrictions the only way to know for sure is by measurement, chamber length is easiest.
Thank you all. The original damascus barrel set seems to be original except for a rebrowning. The second set are fluid steel and sleeved and 2 3/4" chambers choked ic/m. I believe nick mackinson did the work and fitted the barrel set
Ill be using 1oz load of #6 for pheasants tomorrow if the weather cooperates
Ill be using 1oz load of #6 for pheasants tomorrow if the weather cooperates
