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Hello ,I normally would use the search function for this but either I have forgotten how to use it properly or it is not working properly since the reboot.

My friend recently dug an interesting rifle out of a closet. It is a lightly bubbad
No1 mark 3. There is a FR and a '39(which presumably means the year and the
rather nifty 2000 yard sight and nice wood seems to bear that out.
The bolt matches but the mag does not.

The bolt handle side of the wrist socket is unreadable without a lot more cleaning but there is a BSA mark on the bolt and the serial numbers do match.

I am not sure if the barrel has been cut but to my untrained eye it looks good. The stock sight is there and there is abut a centimetre of barrel left after it.
I do not however see any bayonet lugs.

Do you think that the barrel is unmolested from what I have told you?

I am a little fuzzy on whether this is a SMLE and whether it would have had the bulldog ears around the sight? The Barrel is 25 inches long from tip to breech.

I hope this is a good example for restoration because my friend would do a good job and his addictive nature could get him quite into Milsurps.

Any additional advice would also be appreciated?
 
No1 Mk3 is a SMLE. 25 inch barrel - I'd say it's intact.

On the butt socket BSA is where the rifle was made in England. There should also be on there the ShtLE mark I think if I remember correctly.

Is the bore in good shape?

A few pics would help :)

Lou
 
"...do not however see any bayonet lugs..." They were on a separate piece.
"...fuzzy on whether this is a SMLE..." If the rear sight in on the barrel, it's a No. 1. Aka SMLE.
Tell your buddy not to shoot it without checking the headspace first. Even if the bolt handle S/N matches the receiver S/N.
 
Unsub said:
Hello ,I normally would use the search function for this but either I have forgotten how to use it properly or it is not working properly since the reboot.

My friend recently dug an interesting rifle out of a closet. It is a lightly bubbad
No1 mark 3. There is a FR and a '39(which presumably means the year and the
rather nifty 2000 yard sight and nice wood seems to bear that out.
The bolt matches but the mag does not.

The bolt handle side of the wrist socket is unreadable without a lot more cleaning but there is a BSA mark on the bolt and the serial numbers do match.

I am not sure if the barrel has been cut but to my untrained eye it looks good. The stock sight is there and there is abut a centimetre of barrel left after it.
I do not however see any bayonet lugs.

Do you think that the barrel is unmolested from what I have told you?

I am a little fuzzy on whether this is a SMLE and whether it would have had the bulldog ears around the sight? The Barrel is 25 inches long from tip to breech.

I hope this is a good example for restoration because my friend would do a good job and his addictive nature could get him quite into Milsurps.

Any additional advice would also be appreciated?
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There are tons of No 1 MK III's around like this. The barrel hasn't been cut and it's easy to restore it to full wood configuration, you just have to find the myriad of parts, some of them like the forend not so easy to locate. The bayonet lug is located on the nose cap.

You said it needs to be cleaned up to read the markings? What's on it? Grease, rust? If it's seriously rusty I wouldn't bother, you can go to any gun store and find a No I Mk III sporter that's nice and clean with a good barrel for about $100-$150.
 
No rust and it is in rather good shape which is why I was hoping it would be a suitable candidate for restoration. My friend has already fired it but a headspace check is probably a good idea. The side of the socket with the crown has all the printing worn off though which is why I had a hard time IDing it.

Thanks for the help. Mainly I wanted to make sure that there were no bayonet lugs that had been removed. If my friend is not interested in restoring it I may buy it and do it myself. I like the idea of taking something that was certainly used in WW2 and restoring it to it's former glory. I also like that it is an prewar model made in the gearing up towards war before they started taking shortcuts. The wood is nice and it is a shame the forestock needs to be replaced. I will definitly recycle the forestock into knife handle scales.

At the very least it will make a great backdrop(with the cut forestock out of the frame) for my FS Dagger.

Thanks again for the advice.
 
Unsub said:
No rust and it is in rather good shape which is why I was hoping it would be a suitable candidate for restoration. My friend has already fired it but a headspace check is probably a good idea. The side of the socket with the crown has all the printing worn off though which is why I had a hard time IDing it.

Thanks for the help. Mainly I wanted to make sure that there were no bayonet lugs that had been removed. If my friend is not interested in restoring it I may buy it and do it myself. I like the idea of taking something that was certainly used in WW2 and restoring it to it's former glory. I also like that it is an prewar model made in the gearing up towards war before they started taking shortcuts. The wood is nice and it is a shame the forestock needs to be replaced. I will definitly recycle the forestock into knife handle scales.

At the very least it will make a great backdrop(with the cut forestock out of the frame) for my FS Dagger.

Thanks again for the advice.
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Hey Unsub- All the stamping and ID on the right side of the buttsocket is worn off? That is not only quite unusual, but speaks to very poor condition. Putting a bunch of money into a rifle in that shape will be essentially pouring it down a rathole as it'll never be a collectible. Really nice SMLE's are around for reasonable prices.
 
It is strange because there is no rust anywhere and all the other markings are quite clear? Next time I go over there I will take my camera as this is difficult to explain fully without photos. Looking at my Parker Hale that side of the buttsocket is not nearly as deeply struck as the rest of the markings and one third of the crown looks to be worn away in a similar manner.

This is a first project for possible reanacting and having some fun with. I also would like a Enfield with bayonet for a zombie defence weapon. As long as the
barrel is unmolested I am happy. My friend also told me it is quite accurate and has taken a couple coyotes in it's current condition.
 
Unsub said:
It is strange because there is no rust anywhere and all the other markings are quite clear? Next time I go over there I will take my camera as this is difficult to explain fully without photos. Looking at my Parker Hale that side of the buttsocket is not nearly as deeply struck as the rest of the markings and one third of the crown looks to be worn away in a similar manner.

This is a first project for possible reanacting and having some fun with. I also would like a Enfield with bayonet for a zombie defence weapon. As long as the
barrel is unmolested I am happy. My friend also told me it is quite accurate and has taken a couple coyotes in it's current condition.
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Possibly it was reblued and polished?
 
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