No.1 mk3 forend too short?

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Ive got a half dozen no1 sporters I want to restock. I lucked into this forend set. It has a 1 piece upper handguard with a bit of missing wood at the very end and a decent forestock with a crack or 2. Score, but....

Its 1/2" too short?!?

There are no extra screw holes that would show it was shortened sometime in its life. Whats the deal?
This picture show it on my very nice condition 1917 BSA.

Enfield experts assemble!

thanks, thatguy

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Hi. The broken handguard is scrap. The nose cap actually fit on the forestock? I'm wondering if the stock may be swollen due to moisture. Where the cracks are might matter too. They can be fixed with a needle style epoxy applicator though.
Restocking No. 1's can get extremely expensive. Check the headspace before you spend any money. No. 1's aren't cheap to fix headspace issues either. The bolt heads are not numbered like those of a No. 4 so you need a handful at about $30 each to try with proper headspace guages.
 
Sunray...LOL...The relevance to headspace and the OP's question on his nosecap not fitting the short forearm is beyond me. Thank you for your input, you are not wrong with your comments on headspace, but for all the help your suggestion provides him, you might as well have suggested that he get his prostate checked.

Thatguymoses. Perhaps the woodset came off a rifle where barrel was shortened by someone post service? I have come across Australian rifles where the barrel was 'set back' and rechambered, but usually sportered. Something they did to get around a ban on civvy owned rifles in military calibers. The rounds had to be reloaded with shorter brass. Standard mil spec rounds would not chamber. But barrel was usually only 1/14 inch shorter (one thread).

Or perhaps the front end was bobbed and the foresight remounted to restore the crown? Anyhoo, it is obviously evident that the wood is a take off from a rifle with non milspec length barrel. Why a shortened barrel? Who knows?


Are there any markings on the stock such as factory stamps to indicate its origin? Lots of weird dimensioned stuff stripped off Khyber rifles floating around these days.

In any case, my tuppence worth would be to put that forearm aside for now. It can be done, but how much effort (time and money) did you want to spend restocking? Interesting predicament, thanks for sharing.
 
Didnt they have different marks of nosecap? That may be the wrong type nosecap for that type of stock.

I agree with englishman that this may be off of a rifle whose origin made rifles of different spec. You may need to find a different stock set. Once you find out where that one came from you can sell it as such. It may or may not be sought after due to its uniqueness.
 
Numrich sells what I believe to be reproduction forends at at very reasonable price: $59.50 US. It's the shipping costs that bite: around $45.00, but at least you can get them. They're walnut, and will need some fitting- they're not drop in pieces by any means.

Here it is: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/940540.htm
 
As I read the OP, the critical piece of info are the words "1 piece upper handguard".

Now what does that tell us? That would seem to tell us that there is no provision for a barrel mounted backsight as was found on some late SMLE range rifles, meaning a very long handguard, but one not as long as this forend.

It does look like something is broken off, but we need more photos to tell what sort of handguard this is.
 
Hey Thatguymoses

Just to get an idea where the problem lies, lets measure the barrel. With your bolt closed on an empty chamber, run a cleaning rod, or dowel down the bore 'till it touches the bolt face. Mark the rod at the muzzle, remove and measure. You should get 25.25" give or take a 64th of an inch if the barrel is proper length.
If that checks out, it's definitely a stock issue.
 
Baal said:
I'm wondering if the barrel is possibly not fully seated in the receiver?
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it would be turned out at least a 1/4 inch, the nose cap is sat back farther than it would on a proper wood set in the photo. I think we need to see some photos of the entire rifle and wood to get a proper idea where the issue is
 
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