No 4 Mark 1 Longbranch 1943 Value?
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280: A lot depends upon originality- is it the original blued finish? Is it the original wood ('43 LB's had numbered forend up to a certain point). I recently sold a '43 that I felt to be all original to a friend for $1000.00 and I felt I was doing him a bit of a favour (he may feel differently). Try to post some detailed photos if you can.
milsurpo
milsurpo
Condition and numbers match is everything.
I bought my '43 Longbranch a couple years back for $850. All numbers matching. Good bore. Excellent wood.
At the time of purchase I thought I was paying about $100 too much but I really wanted to the rifle so I paid a premium in my mind.
I don't personally believe that any of the No.4's are really justified at $1000 and above. But that is just me.
My 2¢
Shoot straight - chrisco
I bought my '43 Longbranch a couple years back for $850. All numbers matching. Good bore. Excellent wood.
At the time of purchase I thought I was paying about $100 too much but I really wanted to the rifle so I paid a premium in my mind.
I don't personally believe that any of the No.4's are really justified at $1000 and above. But that is just me.
My 2¢
Shoot straight - chrisco
So, what would an all-original, unfired (no scratches to parkerizing on Feed-ramp) Long Branch 1950 No. 4 fetch? Wood is excellent with a couple of minor safe-kisses, metal is pristine with 99% parkerized finish. Not really looking to sell, but curious about the current value of these. I paid $175 for it at Things Military in Calgary when there was a sell-off of these "as new", unissued 1950 Canadian SMLEs back around 1992.
Or how about this minty Ross MkIII M1910 with Excellent wood (all unit markings and cartouches intact) and blued metal with case-hardened Bolt-Carrier?
Or how about this minty Ross MkIII M1910 with Excellent wood (all unit markings and cartouches intact) and blued metal with case-hardened Bolt-Carrier?
maple_leaf_eh
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Now that is just showing off. The only way to know its true value is to sell at auction. Go ahead. I dare ya'.
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I am still raising my eyebrows at the bubba'd and cut smle s and no4s for 200+
Full wood, realistically $800-$850. Bat chit crazy gun store pricing, well then that's a $1000 rifle - sort of like how a local store is selling a formerly sporterized SMLE with reproduction wood on it for the tidy sum of $900 - on sale from $975! 
Hey Bartok5, I'll give you the benefit of rounding on the inflation for your No.4 - $300. Sound fair?
Hey Bartok5, I'll give you the benefit of rounding on the inflation for your No.4 - $300. Sound fair?
Not trying to show off, just asking a serious question. I sold off a pretty impressive WW I and 2 mil-surp collection about 15 years ago, and these are the last of it (I kept my Canadian pieces). Having been out of the mil-surp game since 2005, I don't watch the forums and don't have much ides what their fair market value is these days. We've all seen or heard of $1000 Long Branches and $1800 Ross Rifles, but are those values realistic for my particular rifles?
Mark,
$1000 for the Long Branch and $1800 for the Ross is actually pretty close to what I'd expect to pay here for those rifles, perhaps more. Neither one of those guns in that condition is what you'd call common or ordinary.
$1000 for the Long Branch and $1800 for the Ross is actually pretty close to what I'd expect to pay here for those rifles, perhaps more. Neither one of those guns in that condition is what you'd call common or ordinary.
Actually, in the early 60s they went for a dollar per pound at the retail outlets, such as gas stations, grocery stores, hardware stores, Army Navy, 3 Vets, Robinson's and just about every outlet that carried surplus rifles.
OP, your rifles are worth what the market will bear. Depending on your location, your rifles, in the condition shown are rare. Especially the Ross.
IMHO, $1000 is a tad on the low side and serious collectors would pay a premium on the 1950 No4 in that condition. I have a similar rifle, with darker wood and a few dozen rounds through it, that I've been offered several hundred dollars more for.
That Ross, without accessories, again IMHO could bring as much as $2K if you market it properly.
I love these "what-is-it-worth" threads. In past posts, I've remarked that prices are very much regional. This site reaches all across Canada and beyond and it's great for determining values. Hereabouts, a near pristine 1943 LB in the condition you describe, depending on whether the stock is walnut or birch, would fetch and easy $850-950, from what I'm seeing at the gun shows. As to the Ross and '50 LB, it would partially depend on whether the Ross had seen service (ie: pinned bolt sleeve, relieved chamber). A unit marked, service Ross will run $1500-1800. in very good condition and the '50 LB will run $1100-1200. BTW, for GTA and west central Ontarians, the Jerseyville gun show is 11 Aug. I remember when the '50 Long Branch's hit the market. They sold (again hereabouts) for $250. I had to buy one and my buddy gave me $300 to get one for him. I picked up an "in-the-grease" LB, a spare LB mag, a Cdn. sling, and LB spike bayonet, and that ate up his $300. Ahhhh, the good old days!
I was almost too young to remember when grease coated full wood #4 rifles were worth LESS than nice clean sporters with the wood already cut and sanded....pre-FAC days....also I remember a great uncle hacksawing the ears off a P-14 after he had already cut the wood down....sinful...
I sold a "mint" 1942 2 years ago for $2000.00 and $1800.00 for a 1945 also mint except for one tiny mark on stock.
If average rifles are selling for $800.00 - $1000.00, mint rifles should be double.
How much is a "mint" 1955 dated long branch? I only seen 5-6 dated 1955 in over 30 years collecting.
If average rifles are selling for $800.00 - $1000.00, mint rifles should be double.
How much is a "mint" 1955 dated long branch? I only seen 5-6 dated 1955 in over 30 years collecting.
Donny Fenn1
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Yep, easy and probably sell fast at those prices. If I wasn't saving for something I'd buy the Ross for 1800$ right now if it got listed on the EE. I already have a mint LB so I'm good.
There are some No4 rifles in lesser condition running up past $800 at auctions now. There is a Savage new in grease at over $2000 and bids still flying. I would expect your rifle would get $1000 for you fairly Quickly. The Ross currently up for auction seems comparable to yours at is at $2200 with a week to go.
Chargerguy
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Where can I find the Savage listed? I wonder if it's my old one. New in the grease with box.
Edit: Found it. Not my old one. Mine was a 53C
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