No 4 MKI T prices

SteelFlint said:
Ian Skennerton - "The Lee Enfield" or "All About Enfields" or something to that effect, is the de facto bible on all things Lee, including the T. It's textbook prices but well worth the money.
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There's no question the big Skennerton book is a tremendous source of general info but it does come up short in terms of preparing someone to shop for a "T". There's more specific info in "The British Sniper" by Skennerton and "An Armourers Perspective: .303 No. 4 (T) Sniper Rifle...." by Peter Laidler. The latter book, in particular, does reveal some specific things to look for in verifying a "T"'s authenticity but is not easy to find. As I mentioned, "milsurps" forum is a goldmine for "T" info and used to be frequented by Laidler who has had other priorities lately! Spend some time there reading threads and build up a checklist of things to watch for.

milsurpo
 
milsurpo said:
There's no question the big Skennerton book is a tremendous source of general info but it does come up short in terms of preparing someone to shop for a "T". There's more specific info in "The British Sniper" by Skennerton and "An Armourers Perspective: .303 No. 4 (T) Sniper Rifle...." by Peter Laidler. The latter book, in particular, does reveal some specific things to look for in verifying a "T"'s authenticity but is not easy to find. As I mentioned, "milsurps" forum is a goldmine for "T" info and used to be frequented by Laidler who has had other priorities lately! Spend some time there reading threads and build up a checklist of things to watch for.

milsurpo
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A copy of Peter's "An Armourer's Perspective ..." sold at the last Switzer sale for about $250. He's been distracted with his court case and imprisonment, and unless he gets an angel investor is unlikely to get these reprinted. The book of his I've seen mentioned but never for sale is on the No.8 scope can. Talk about an esoteric interest, but if you're going to drop high four, low five figures on a rifle and accessories, a couple hundred on books is cheap knowledge.
 
can14 said:
Anyone else have a DCRA No4 T converted to 7.62 in the box?
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Your have a post-service conversion which is not a No.4(T) by definition. The DCRA conversion process was simply a barrel, bolt head and extractor. Anyone could send their rifle to Canadian Arsenals for the work. If someone sent in their T, that was their choice. However, the No.4 magazine will not feed 7.62 except as a loading platform. To feed 7.62 reliably, there need to be a couple of relief cuts on the underside of the receiver so a newer magazine will sit high enough.
 
There are 2 No.4 T on the EE just posted. No idea how original/accurate they are as I know next to nothing about these but thought I would bring your attention their way
 
MattE93 said:
There are 2 No.4 T on the EE just posted. No idea how original/accurate they are as I know next to nothing about these but thought I would bring your attention their way
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Much appreciated, I was in contact with the seller before they went up on the EE - great rifles. I'm pretty much decided on buying or building a repro at this point. I really want something I can shoot, not interested in rolling the dice on an old optic that may not track or hold zero. I've been in touch with Lee Enfield Restoration in Sask and Vulcan Refinishing in Ontario. Both seem keen to take on the project, according to both my No4 MK2 would make a great candidate.

RifleChair recently posted an unboxing video of a new No32 Mk3 repro scope from RSM. Did a bit of digging online and was able to find some reviews from Australia that say good things about their MK2 repro. So just waiting to hear back on a lead on a repro for sale, failing that I'll be sending on of my No4's off to Vulcan along with an RSM scope to be fitted.

For those interested here is a link to the scope: https://www.redstarmountain.com/shopping/index.php?rt=product/product&path=74&product_id=144
 
Buy the real thing. If the scope needs to be rebuilt it can be but the No 32 was built like a brick outhouse for the Bren. You are probably more likely to have problems with a cheap Chinese copy than a well made Brit original...

As for the guy in Sask...not impressed after he tried to sell me what he insisted was an L39 but definitely was not......
 
Not too long ago I saw an EE ad for a No. 4 T with no scope for $7000.00 So 7K for one with an original scope is not too bad I guess? There is nothing like an original 32 scope. There are people who can still work on them to restore their full function if there are issues.
 
Robbs said:
There are people who can still work on them to restore their full function if there are issues.
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TheWhole9Yards said:
At what cost though?
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I was talking to Wheatie last week and he has a full order book, but definitely he knows how they age and where to put skilled attention. He is using 3rd World craftsmen for many of his components. If their work wasn't entirely satisfactory, he wouldn't be using their services.
 
You see the prices for the transit cases on #######. 1560$ for a repo and 2350$ for an original one. Prices are out of control
 
R711 said:
You see the prices for the transit cases on #######. 1560$ for a repo and 2350$ for an original one. Prices are out of control
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Just saying - not sure you want to live where wages and prices are being "controlled". Your phrase "out of control" probably means there are people out there paying more than you would pay - is what happens when a market is at work - who can or will pay, for how much. Sucks to be old and retired, like me, and not able or not willing to "keep up"...
 
TheWhole9Yards said:
I've been waiting a week now for photos of a rifle he has for sale, I've moved on.
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I don't know if this is related, but I just talked to the man today on the phone. He had a pretty serious medical issue. He told me it was a "minor stroke" but any stroke sounds pretty major to me. He's having issues with some work related things so I'd say patience and a gentle attitude would help him I'd imagine.
 
TheWhole9Yards said:
Hey folks,

I’m in search of a No4 MKI T, how much am I going to have to withdrawal from my piggy bank to get one home? I’m interested in something that is shooter level or better, not interested in something that would lose value if fired.

Any help or guidance is much appreciated

Thanks!
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They are all going for crazy money at the moment. Have seen a few on this site and ####### for under $1000, but the majority over that.
 
I’ve settled on having a repro no32 MK3 scope\mount put on my fazakerley made No4 MK2. Just received all the bits, will be sending it out to Vulcan in the near future for proper mounting. Thanks for everyones input on the topic.

Cheers
 
The post war No4's are better guns than the wartime No4's from any maker - better materials, better build, and better design. You'll end up with a very accurate, durable and shootable rifle. It won't have the history, but you'll enjoy shooting it much more than you would a real one both from a results perspective and from a peace of mind perspective. Good choice.
 
enefgee said:
The post war No4's are better guns than the wartime No4's from any maker - better materials, better build, and better design. You'll end up with a very accurate, durable and shootable rifle. It won't have the history, but you'll enjoy shooting it much more than you would a real one both from a results perspective and from a peace of mind perspective. Good choice.
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Thanks, that's exactly why I did it. I hope to shoot this quite a bit.
 
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