I have some questions for the Lee Enfield experts. What are the fundamental differences between a mk1, 1*, 1/2, 2? Which rifles had 2, 4 , or 5 groove barrels? which rifles had walnut, beech or coach? which ones were blued, parked or suncorited? If I only bought one book on the subject what should it be? Any good references on the net?
No 4 questions
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Look here....good info...
http://www.milsurps.com/index.php
http://www.milsurps.com/index.php
Yup, Been a member since day one. Info is scattered and there are huge gaps missing in terms of examples to compare. That site will become useful in about ten years if they keep adding at the same pace. It's a great idea but will take alot of time and continued input. For example, I am a semi serious Garand collector, and they don't have a singe example of the dozens of variations of US M1's. Back to the topic at hand... I want to buy ONE only No4 to have and to hold and to shoot. It must be accurate. It must be pretty. I would prefer walnut. Is the frame mounted trigger better than the triggerguard mounted one? Which one refers to a "hung" trigger? which is crisper? The only No 4 I ever owned had excellent sights wth a large aperture and a flip up dial graduated small aperture. The big peep was a foot low at 100 using fmj 174grn factory loads. That annoyed me. Are all of the sights "approximate" or are some better than others? Can the different sight assemblies be swapped from one mark style receiver to a different mark style receiver? I am leaning towards a post war mark 2, what are the names of teh factories taht made mark 2's like the "irish contract" ones. And, is a 50's era mark2 built with meaningful, usefull improvements or is it just made cheaper?
- Go here to see a photo of the MKII trigger: http://www.angelfire.com/nh/milarm/4MKII.html
- Only the Royal Ordnance Factory at Fazakerley and the Pakistan Ordnance Factory made the MKII's
- Mounting the trigger on the rear receiver was to stop it from moving around because of stock warpage.
- Only the Royal Ordnance Factory at Fazakerley and the Pakistan Ordnance Factory made the MKII's
- Mounting the trigger on the rear receiver was to stop it from moving around because of stock warpage.
It would most likely have a Fazakerly 1950s barrel unless the rifle was refurbished and a new barrel made elsewhere was fitted.
A Lee Enfield's front sights are changed so that the basic elevation zero with service ammunition corresponds to the sight settings. Front sights in various heights were made, and are easily changed.
The different patterns of rear sights used on No. 4s are interchangable. For shooting purposes a Mk. I sight is probably most useful unless one of the excellent target shooting sights is installed.
From your posts, you would likely be most satisfied with one of the post war Mk. 2s.
Have you considered offering photos of any of your M-1s for inclusion at milsurps.com? The refernce section grows when people share.
A Lee Enfield's front sights are changed so that the basic elevation zero with service ammunition corresponds to the sight settings. Front sights in various heights were made, and are easily changed.
The different patterns of rear sights used on No. 4s are interchangable. For shooting purposes a Mk. I sight is probably most useful unless one of the excellent target shooting sights is installed.
From your posts, you would likely be most satisfied with one of the post war Mk. 2s.
Have you considered offering photos of any of your M-1s for inclusion at milsurps.com? The refernce section grows when people share.
re: milsurps.com
All the hosted firearms and writeups are contributed by users. the reason we have no M1 content is that no M1 collectors have offered to contribute anything.
If you ever want to help out begining M1 enthusiasts, please do consider contributing material
We're a not for profit site and welcome any help you (or others) can provide.
If you need help or want to discuss, e-mail me claven2@milsurps.com
PS: Content is appearing slowly because most of the available material is offered out of only 1 or 2 large collections and the owners are often busy with other site admin responsibilities. We reall do need user participation to make it work!
All the hosted firearms and writeups are contributed by users. the reason we have no M1 content is that no M1 collectors have offered to contribute anything.
If you ever want to help out begining M1 enthusiasts, please do consider contributing material
We're a not for profit site and welcome any help you (or others) can provide.If you need help or want to discuss, e-mail me claven2@milsurps.com
PS: Content is appearing slowly because most of the available material is offered out of only 1 or 2 large collections and the owners are often busy with other site admin responsibilities. We reall do need user participation to make it work!
Relax Guys, I am not picking on milsurps.com, just noting that it is not helpful for me with questions regarding a genre of firearm that I have not previously been interested in. I love the idea, it is just going to take time. I have actually attempted some Garand photos to contribute, but I fear my photography skills are lacking, or at least the little purse camera I have is lacking. Parkerizing just turns blurry when macro settings are used.
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Just a small add.
The difference between a Mk1 and a Mk1* is solely in how the bolt is released.
Obviously the Mk1 has a catch which must be pushed down to allow the bolt head to pivot up while the Mk1* has a slot in the guide rail where the head must be positioned in order to raise it.
The difference between a Mk1 and a Mk1* is solely in how the bolt is released.
Obviously the Mk1 has a catch which must be pushed down to allow the bolt head to pivot up while the Mk1* has a slot in the guide rail where the head must be positioned in order to raise it.
