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My rifle is a reproduction built on a post war Irish Contract rifle .... so everyone calm, this is not a description of the raping of an original No.4 T rifle. :LOL:

I have had trouble with several different Waffenmeister scopes and had been exploring options on a more modern scope to fill the space where my No32 replica scope is supposed to be occupying.

I'd done a bit of research and discovered there were several 1.5-4 and 1.5-5x20 scopes that looked the part and supposedly did fit the No.32 scope mount. At the Red Deer gunshot this weekend I came across a lovely Leupold VX-III 1.5-5x20 scope with a MIL Dot reticle. Buddy was selling it for a friend and it was priced to move so I snapped it up on the spot. Interestingly I found another, slightly older VX-III with a duplex reticle for more than double what I had just paid, so that was pretty nice to see.

This is the exact model I bought. It has modern, hand adjustable turrets, with nice crisp clicks. No need to use a dime, like the old Leupold turrets.

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Mounted in the No.32 rings, it really looks the part.

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The first thing I noticed once the scope was mounted was the weight difference. The little Leupold is WAY lighter than the steel No.32 and you feel that just hefting the rifle.

The Chinese made scope rings are less than perfect and could probably have benefitted from being lapped but the scope went in easily enough and is now tightened down and zero'd so I will probably just leave it all alone at this point.

Compared to the No.32 scope, the bore sighting and zero'ing process was literally 10x easier. Modern technology for the win. :cool: The variable 1.5-5x is pretty nice, giving a wider field of view for close shots and a little more magnification for longer shots. All in all, I am pretty pleased with this purchase.
 
Looks good. The original scopes and repros are heavy. Along with heavy mount its easy for screws securing the mount to the rifle to shear off under recoil. Many solder the bases to the action to prevent this.
 
Looks good, the old steel scopes are expensive and heavy, often the knobs dont work well, If you are a shooter, like I am, I want shooting performance for a reasonable price. Building or maintaining a collector is a different story ... I have the same scope with a CDS but regular duplex on my 9.3, very nice/good choice ✔️
 
Looks good, however I suspect your scope is a knockoff. The whole gunshow 'selling it for a friend' and 'priced to move' raised my eyebrows. Also that scope was heavily faked for a while on places like ebay and they could be bought for about $100 and I just found a post online describing how to spot a fake and it had the exact same serial number yours has. You might want to call Korth or Leupold and verify the serial number to know for sure. Hopefully its legit, but I don't think it is.
 
  • Gold Ring Markings: Counterfeits often have white lettering on the gold ring, while genuine ones have black. Some fakes misspell or use improper notation, such as using Roman numerals (III) inappropriately or improper spacing (VX 3).
  • Power Ring: On fakes, magnification numbers are often on the front of the ring with a "X" after each number (e.g., 3x, 9x), whereas real ones have them on the back without the "X".
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Well SON OF A B!TCH ! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

My new scope has two hallmarks of a fake. White lettering on the gold ring and the magnification numbers on the front of the adjustment ring along with an X, that the real ones don't have.

Apparently three hallmarks of a fake. The power ring turns CCW to increase power where the real ones are the other way round.

Any ideas how well the fakes are made? Do they last at all? On the face of it, this scope seems well made. The turret clicks are nice and crisp and the thing zero'd up quickly and easily.
 
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The few I've seen were decent quality but not anywhere equal to Leupold. Had my 2 1/2-8x leupold verified and turns out its genuine. Looks brand new but made in 1999.
 
IMG_6839.pngHere’s a super cool HK G3sg/1 Zeiss scope on kijiji that the buyer only wanted peanuts for. Too bad cash only and St. Albert AB is 16 hours away from me

Would fit the vibe of what your trying to do, or just re sell it for buccu bucks
 
Here’s a fake Swarovski some dummy paid +900$ for, I’ve posted the pic previously in the funny pic thread. Another expensive learning experience.

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But getting back to your rifle, how does it shoot?
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Pretty darn well to be honest. Shot my best group ever today, with the Fauxpold as I am going to call it.

Shooting off a Caldwell bag.
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1/3 sized IPSC target at 200 yds. Group ca. 2" (~1 moa)

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Yea, I know it is only a 3-shot group but this is still quite impressive for a 1950's rifle and a fake scope. I always had trouble with the replica No.32 scope. The Fauxpold was much easier to zero and use.

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Load is 150gr Speer over IMR 4064 at about 2580 fps.

One thing I noticed about the Fauxpold is that the MIL Dot reticle, the dots are way more than 1 mil apart. I'll have to do some measuring to find out what their actual subtension is. I'd guess closer to 2 mil.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Pretty darn well to be honest. Shot my best group ever today, with the Fauxpold as I am going to call it.

Shooting off a Caldwell bag.
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1/3 sized IPSC target at 200 yds. Group ca. 2" (~1 moa)

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Yea, I know it is only a 3-shot group but this is still quite impressive for a 1950's rifle and a fake scope. I always had trouble with the replica No.32 scope. The Fauxpold was much easier to zero and use.

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Load is 150gr Speer over IMR 4064 at about 2580 fps.

One thing I noticed about the Fauxpold is that the MIL Dot reticle, the dots are way more than 1 mil apart. I'll have to do some measuring to find out what their actual subtension is. I'd guess closer to 2 mil.
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Mil dot spacing depends on where the zoom power is set on an SFP scope.
 
If there's a zoom setting where 2 mil dots = 1 mil, then you're good. The dots are then .5 mil apart. Alternatively, if there's a setting where 1 mildot equals 2mils, you can use that too to estimate offset. If neither zoom setting works, then the mildots are basically useless.
 
neighbour in our cres picked up a couple of fake leupolds along with rings through temu for 100$.... best buy since sliced bread, can't tell the diff between the fake scope and the real leupold he says

he hunts a fair bit and i figure one day soon he's going to come back from a trip telling me about how he had the shot of a lifetime on a big bear/buck/etc and his leupold crapped out on him....

buy quality, cry once.
 
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