No.5 Stock Questions

bgcameron

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I have a couple of questions about my No.5 "Jungle Carbine" wood.

1. What are the stock bedding specs for this rifle? I looked all over and could not find any info. I'm assuming that the receiver end should be bedded like a No.4, but I am not sure about the barrel.

2. When I got the rifle I found that there were some strips of electrical tape stuck inside the handguard. I guess someone had thrown them in there to tighten the fit, but I took them off because the were putting downward pressure on the barrel. Now the handguard is quite loose. The stock band flops around even when its tightened right up. What can I do to fix this?

I was thinking of giving the wood a linseed oil bath...but then again I am unsure if the wood is shrunk because the receiver sits in the forearm nice and snuggly. There is no gap ahead of the receiver ring and the receiver sits firmly against the proper contact points.

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks! :D
 
From memory (which could be distorted) - similar to No4 except there's no upward pressure at the muzzle (obviously! :D); forend contacts the underside of receiver, and under the chamber / knox; then it's free floating forward? I'll try to dig in some saved files to find out.

The stock: clean it with pure boiled linseed oil;give it a good rub, wait a day or two and see if it needs more.

Lou
 
From my photographic memory which isn't distorted like Lou's. :stirthepot2::stirthepot2::stirthepot2:


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Dang b51, I was quite far off on that one!

I better save these pics...

Thanks for coming to my rescue (once again!) ;)

Lou
 
I found on my barrel, it likes to sit to the left side of the forstock, but doesn't contact the wood. Shoots beautifully and is snug and tight elsewhere.
 
Barrels never get bedded. They do, sometimes, have a pressure point, usually near the front of the stock.
"...What can I do to fix this?..." Put the tape back in or very carefully build up the handguard with bedding material.
"...clean it with pure boiled linseed oil..." BLO doesn't do much cleaning. It's a wood preservative.
 
Thanks for your help everyone! I'm loving this forum!

I've got the forearm and handguard bathing in BLO right now. I like the idea of taping the stock band channel, but I have an idea of getting away from tape to something a little nicer. I was thinking of getting some brown paper and resin or super-glue and making some lay-ups inside the channel. Just not sure if it will bond with all the oil in the wood.
 
louthepou said:
Dang b51, I was quite far off on that one!

I better save these pics...

Thanks for coming to my rescue (once again!) ;)

Lou
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Lou

I was joking with you and your “memory”, your verbal description was correct.

You need to understand my American warped sense of humor better and use more duct tape.

Your buddy from Milsurps.com
bigedp51 AKA Ed Horton

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bgcameron said:
Thanks for your help everyone! I'm loving this forum!

I've got the forearm and handguard bathing in BLO right now. I like the idea of taping the stock band channel, but I have an idea of getting away from tape to something a little nicer. I was thinking of getting some brown paper and resin or super-glue and making some lay-ups inside the channel. Just not sure if it will bond with all the oil in the wood.
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On two of my Enfield's an armourer used a strip of “oiled” manila folder paper (card stock?) The oiled paper swells slightly and compresses as the band is tightened. In the 1931 Instructions for Armourers varnish and brown paper was used to tighten up loose areas of the stock.

Please read the Enfield manuals at Milsurps.com in the........
Lee Enfield On-line Knowledge Libraries (Index of Articles) http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=3611these manuals are full of helpful tips and tricks.
 
bigedp51 said:
Lou

I was joking with you and your “memory”, your verbal description was correct.

You need to understand my American warped sense of humor better and use more duct tape.

Your buddy from Milsurps.com
bigedp51 AKA Ed Horton
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Then I need to learn to better read. When I glanced at your pics in this thread I thought first that the instruction called for contact at the front of the forend. I looked again just now and - what do you know - I was right at first!

Ah I feel much better now ;)

(Oh and not to worry, I actually can appreciate your peculiar sense of humor Ed :D )
 
The very rear of the fore stock steers and centers the barrel in the fore stocks barrel channel, a brown paper grocery bag can be cut to make shims and held in place with varnish or super glue.

Note: do not remove wood to center your barrel, ADD paper shims, you can't put wood back when you remove too much and a paper shim can be sanded or removed if an error is made.

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Shim the forward section of the draws to push the stock to the rear and contact the reciever ring.
Shim the rear of the forestock to center the barrel.(shaded area should be contacting receiver ring equally on both sides)

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If you can insert a feeler gauge between the stock and receiver ring you are suffering from wood shrinkage and you need to make adjustments in the draws area of the fore stock to “tighten” up the stock.

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Below part of a British PAM or manual on bedding.

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