No BS input on muzzle breaks?
- Thread starter longarm21
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I'll make this simple. I was very apprehensive about shooting a .50, I invited the owner so HE could shoot but he insisted I try the PGW .50. Lots of noise, a felt big blast if you are a spectator, the sheet on the ground is required so you don't get hit with stones, but as a shooter, not much different than a shotgun. I did not even consider trying it without the brake. Hope that helps!!!
lejarretnoir
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- 162km from Connaught
Those "Clamshell" brakes are an absolute must on a bolt action .50 BMG!
I cannot imagine the recoil without it.
I cannot imagine the recoil without it.
I'll make this simple. I was very apprehensive about shooting a .50, I invited the owner so HE could shoot but he insisted I try the PGW .50. Lots of noise, a felt big blast if you are a spectator, the sheet on the ground is required so you don't get hit with stones, but as a shooter, not much different than a shotgun. I did not even consider trying it without the brake. Hope that helps!!!
The only I took from this is you refused to shoot a gun...breaked or not...that is wrong man!!!
This depends on your Provincial Rifle Association's rules. The BCRA Precision/Tactical rifle matches do not allow Muzzle brakes.
Most competitions I compete in don't allow them because they disturb/distract/annoy the competitors on either side of you.........
Muzzle brakes have their uses, and can make large caliber firearms more tolerable/easier to shoot............
Shooting a Savage .308 Precision with muzzle brake, come on out and check my grouping at 500yds. I too like watching my bullets when they hit the kill spot, and not taking my eye off of the target. Guess I'm a wimp.....LOL
Muzzle brakes have an advantage in second shot follow up by reducing muzzle climb and recoil impulse, both very desirable in shooting, however one has to weigh them in relation to other requirements. If you're civvy street or making stoopid (with two "O"s) long range shots from optimal conditions and positions there is no real draw back. When you start talking about stacking up or firing from a concealed/enclosed position (sniping, FIBUA/MOUT, CQB) or firing in conditions of reduced/altered light, a muzzle brake is a very bad thing. The noise, excess gas and burnt/un-burnt powder all lead to increased audio and visual signature which can jeopardize those involved through compromising their visual, audio and tactile senses.
There are several good flash suppressor/muzzle brake offering on the market that while they don't do both as well as the specialized kit, provide a more than acceptable result
There are several good flash suppressor/muzzle brake offering on the market that while they don't do both as well as the specialized kit, provide a more than acceptable result
totally untrue. sure you can add weight to the gun, but not many people want to lug a 60lb gun to the bench.
a break helps reduce muzzle jump and helps with faster follow up shots as it will be closer to the target after. for someone posting on a precision forum you should know this. sure it makes it louder, but everyone is to have their ears on at the range anyhow. if you come to the range after sit someplace else. if they come to the range after ask them not to sit next to you politely. dont give stupid advice like "just add weight"
Another advantage: brakes come in not just brakes. They can be flash hiders, braking, counter muzzle rise, counter-rifling rotation, rifling rotation and much more combinations. This allows the tinkering that some people here like to do: it can be as much a part of the sport getting to the point of a fine shooting rifle as it is to shoot a fine shooting rifle.
Oh, and I wear ear plugs and ear muffs together when around or shooting brakes: they are life changingly loud on occassion.
^^ youve got like $8000 in brakes there man. Thats insane. I had a brake on my Savage 10BA but not on my Savage FCP-SR and I notice a BIG difference. The sound difference isnt an issue because, as has been said, i wear ear protection. The blast rearward is reduced in a huge way without a brake but id trade it for the reduction in recoil any day. I dont shoot at a range though, just on my own land, usually alone, so all other factors arent an issue for me.
I had a custom brake made for my new Savage. Its to combat muzzle rise more than anything. Interesting design so ill have to see how it works.
I had a custom brake made for my new Savage. Its to combat muzzle rise more than anything. Interesting design so ill have to see how it works.
I have one rifle with a brake. It is a Remington 700 in .338 Win. Mag. I only ever fired 2 shots with the brake removed. Never again.
That said, they are noisy. There have been times I've gone to the range and never taken that gun out of the truck because I would have given some adjoining shooters noise problems. Unfortunately recently there have been some shooters showing up with .338 Lapuas, etc. who have no regard for others. With this gun I try to use the range at times when it is relatively unused. This is not too hard to do since I'm retired and have flexibility in when I attend.
In my opinion users of braked guns should show consideration for others even if at times it means not shooting. If someone shows up after I am set up and there are benches available away from me I warn the other members about what I am using before they sit down. It helps to maintain good relations.
Jim
That said, they are noisy. There have been times I've gone to the range and never taken that gun out of the truck because I would have given some adjoining shooters noise problems. Unfortunately recently there have been some shooters showing up with .338 Lapuas, etc. who have no regard for others. With this gun I try to use the range at times when it is relatively unused. This is not too hard to do since I'm retired and have flexibility in when I attend.
In my opinion users of braked guns should show consideration for others even if at times it means not shooting. If someone shows up after I am set up and there are benches available away from me I warn the other members about what I am using before they sit down. It helps to maintain good relations.
Jim
When a brake equipped rifle is fired under a covered shooting area, it really blasts everyone with noise. Double ear protection is definately warranted. I put one on my m14 and it really makes off hand shooting fun. Just a straight back push. Would be excellent for a rapid fire competition.
- Location
- Northern Ontario
Brake make shooting fun, I laughter insidesign when hit target!
Awesome.
mightyhunter
CGN Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
The advantages are: (for long range shooting)
Reduces recoils and muzzle jumps so you can spot your own hits and misses so you can make quick adjustments to get on target
as a result, less ammo are wasted. More fun and less frustration.
I don't see any disadvantages really. It is louder but that's what ears protections are for. After all, its gun that we are shooting not bows and arrows.
If you have a chance, shoot one with a brake on and one without and decide for yourself.
I am sure gunboy can spare one of his brakes for you.
Reduces recoils and muzzle jumps so you can spot your own hits and misses so you can make quick adjustments to get on target
as a result, less ammo are wasted. More fun and less frustration.
I don't see any disadvantages really. It is louder but that's what ears protections are for. After all, its gun that we are shooting not bows and arrows.
If you have a chance, shoot one with a brake on and one without and decide for yourself.
I am sure gunboy can spare one of his brakes for you.
