No centerfire without a tag in Ontario.
- Thread starter kodiakjack
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Lol. When it comes to shotguns, you CAN’T possess the ammo, but CAN possess the gun. BUT... when it comes to rifles, you CAN possess the ammo, but CAN’T possess the gun.
What a dog’s breakfast.
Well, probably not much. It’s just the folks using pistol carbines, or severely downloaded centerfire handloads under 400 ftlbs that are newly affected. Probably not a major section of the market. We can hope though
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Sect. 77 guarantees two things,the sale of Black Bear tags to varmint/predator hunters using c/f rifles whether they're hunting Bears or not and the fines generated for failing to wear the prescribed "hunter orange" while hunting. It's important for all hunters to be aware that southern Ontario WMU's have "shotguns only-no dogs" specification for open GUN seasons for Deer. Carrying of or being in possession of anything other than a shotgun during the two-week gun season is also a big NO-NO.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
So I'm moose hunting, and am in possession of both a moose and small game tag. I spy a rabbit a few yards away, and would like him to join me for lunch; can I legally shoot him with a cast bullet load from my .30/06?
I currently hunt coyotes with a 243, but it was more of a pause and think for a second... my .22 LR might be good up to 50 yards, but my 50 cal ML is probably good up to 150 yards.
Under the 400ftlbs those reloading plinker loads were still breaking the law. The law stated rifle of greater than 400ftlbs muzzle energy. Even a 223 has more than that. They go by whats on the data stamp not what you load to
Its a dumb law. Its like in my area i can use a 275 rigby if stamped but not a 7x57 stamped rifle even though theyre the same. I can use a 270wby but not a 9mm 19 carbine
Its a dumb law. Its like in my area i can use a 275 rigby if stamped but not a 7x57 stamped rifle even though theyre the same. I can use a 270wby but not a 9mm 19 carbine
canadian hunter312
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- Location
- Brant County
I guess you don't realize there are 8 or more WMU's in southern Ontario which prohibit the use of shotguns for deer during the controlled gun hunt?
Southern Ontario is not limited to shotguns only as there are WMU's in Southern Ontario which permit the use of rifles, shotguns, muzzleloaders and bows for the controlled hunt or "gun season".
In my lifetime i have never ran into a CO while hunting. Ran into one once while atving in the spring. Showed no interest in my gun boot and only checked one guy for fishing license.
Im going to target shoot on my property or adjacent crown land anytime i want. Not much a CO can do if im in possession or carrying while target shooting. Mind you i better have made it damn clear that that is what i was doing
It the Maritimes it's even worse.
You can't have any firearm on you at all unless you have a valid hunting permit for something that's in season right now, and you have the have the right calibre for that game (the cutoff is .224)
So for example, you can not just have an SKS or a bolt action 308 on Crown land, or else you'll get charged with poaching (even if there is no evidence at all if you're shooting any animals).
Unless it's bear or moose or deer season, you can't have anything larger than 223 on you (many guys use 22-250), and you still have to have something like a small game tag during those times.
I tried to fight the fight with the province here, saying that non-restricted means just that: Non-restricted. It fell completely on deaf ears, because the regs they've had here pre-date the Firearms Act.
I then tried to tell them how the Firearms Act should have superseded those rules, but they wouldn't have it. They don't even speak the right language; they'll use terms like "un-restricted"
It's crazy, I thought moving from Ontatrio to out here would open up what I could do with guns, but it's the opposite.
You can't have any firearm on you at all unless you have a valid hunting permit for something that's in season right now, and you have the have the right calibre for that game (the cutoff is .224)
So for example, you can not just have an SKS or a bolt action 308 on Crown land, or else you'll get charged with poaching (even if there is no evidence at all if you're shooting any animals).
Unless it's bear or moose or deer season, you can't have anything larger than 223 on you (many guys use 22-250), and you still have to have something like a small game tag during those times.
I tried to fight the fight with the province here, saying that non-restricted means just that: Non-restricted. It fell completely on deaf ears, because the regs they've had here pre-date the Firearms Act.
I then tried to tell them how the Firearms Act should have superseded those rules, but they wouldn't have it. They don't even speak the right language; they'll use terms like "un-restricted"
It's crazy, I thought moving from Ontatrio to out here would open up what I could do with guns, but it's the opposite.
I’m not so sure... where did it say they went by the data stamp?
Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever heard of a CO searching a person for no valid reason? How would they know which ammo you have on you?
Depends on the load you are using. I hunted with a 45 percussion rifle for years. Used 22 gr. 3f behind a 133 gr. RB, for small game and would not have had a problem. ME was around 220 lb. Same rifle loaded with 250 Maxi and 70 gr. 3f was a bear load, well over 400. I just made sure not to have maxi's with me.
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Really? I've hunted all over the province for many decades and haven't ran into that. Would you mind posting,specifically,which WMU's prohibit the use of shotguns (except for M/L seasons)?
All my interactions with CO's have been positive,too. I've been checked many times. Each time,my shotgun was checked for a magazine plug, ammo was checked for proper shot size and type (non-lead) along with licenses and PAL's. Only once have I had interactions with Police while target shooting and you're absolutely correct about being able to demonstrate that's what your doing. It was a cut and dried issue for CO's,but,it sure wasn't for Police.
