No Classic Greens left?

Teapot

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What have happened to all the Classic Green rifles that shops used to have. I have found two Black Specials in shops and two CG's on the EE. For the price asked for used I'd rather buy new as at least I would know the round count.
Are more coming in the near future I wonder.
 
Teapot said:
What have happened to all the Classic Green rifles that shops used to have. I have found two Black Specials in shops and two CG's on the EE. For the price asked for used I'd rather buy new as at least I would know the round count.
Are more coming in the near future I wonder.
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With the highly motivated :rolleyes:and customer orientated staff:rolleyes: from the recently new distributors of this rifle (FN Sports/R. Nichols), I am sure more will be forthcoming:rolleyes::(
 
wildphil24 said:
CIE Canada inc have Classic green with 1-7 twist. Just choose your dealer to order it.
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So how does it work? The dealer purchases the rifle, stocks it, marks up the price a bit and then sells it to the customer? One just contacts a gun shop and them pays them first?

Also, is the one in seven twist rate able to stabilize heavier bullets as well as say 55gr bullets?
 
I have a 1:7. It gets reasonable accuracy with the 55 grainers. I have tried 77 grainers and when I can find some other weights I will try them. I'm just curious what accuracy I can get with this rifle. If I had a choice I would get a 1:10 twist barrel.
 
Teapot said:
So how does it work? The dealer purchases the rifle, stocks it, marks up the price a bit and then sells it to the customer? One just contacts a gun shop and them pays them first?

Also, is the one in seven twist rate able to stabilize heavier bullets as well as say 55gr bullets?
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I don't know how they proceed, ask a quote to a few gunshop and then choose what you like. Did you look with Wolverine, DelSelins and Wanstall? Wanstall seems to have it in stock, tactical rifle, page 6.

Used, they regularly show-up in the EE forum. There's actually a nice one advertised on 10-09-06 by SakoAlberta (from ProphetRiver).

In the AR world:
1-7twist is recognized for 55-80+gr
1-9twist is for 40-69gr
So I guess 1-10 is good for 40-62+gr

There's another thread where the guy says his Swiss Arms stabilizes 77gr with 1-10. If you intend to use mostly 55gr, 1-10 might be better but both are good to go.
 
1:7 should work just fine with 55 grain bullets. Some, but not all, sub-50 grain bullets might disintegrate when fired out of a 1:7 barrel, but the only way to find out is to try it yourself with your rifle and pick a bullet that doesn't disintegrate if you want to shoot the light ones. While 1:7 is optimum for the heavy bullets, that doesn't necessarily mean that the barrel won't shoot the 40-45 grain bullets accurately.

Personally, I would choose 1:7 because it works with the widest range of bullet weights.
 
tjhaile said:
1:7 should work just fine with 55 grain bullets. Some, but not all, sub-50 grain bullets might disintegrate when fired out of a 1:7 barrel, but the only way to find out is to try it yourself with your rifle and pick a bullet that doesn't disintegrate if you want to shoot the light ones. While 1:7 is optimum for the heavy bullets, that doesn't necessarily mean that the barrel won't shoot the 40-45 grain bullets accurately.

Personally, I would choose 1:7 because it works with the widest range of bullet weights.
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+1 for truth.

However, finding a 1/7" Classic Green is not as easy as you might think. I believe most (and all I've seen) are 1/10".
 
wildphil24 said:
In the AR world:
1-7twist is recognized for 55-80+gr
1-9twist is for 40-69gr
So I guess 1-10 is good for 40-62+gr

There's another thread where the guy says his Swiss Arms stabilizes 77gr with 1-10. If you intend to use mostly 55gr, 1-10 might be better but both are good to go.
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55's fire great on my 1:7 as well. Personally I'd say the 1:10 would work good til 63gr
 
Donster 125 said:
so just to recap for a noob such as myself:

Classic Green has a 1:7 twist
Black has a 1:10 twist

Is that right?
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No.

Most Classic green used to be 1-10. New ones are often 1-7.
The situation is probably similar for Black special.

Your best bet is to measure the lenght for a full rotation with your cleaning rod.
 
wildphil24 said:
No.

Most Classic green used to be 1-10. New ones are often 1-7.
The situation is probably similar for Black special.

Your best bet is to measure the lenght for a full rotation with your cleaning rod.
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thanks for the info. so if i want a 1:7 twist so i can shoot heavier bullets, im better off with a newer model gun.

1:10 will suit me fine for lighter .223 bullets is that right?
 
Donster 125 said:
thanks for the info. so if i want a 1:7 twist so i can shoot heavier bullets, im better off with a newer model gun.

1:10 will suit me fine for lighter .223 bullets is that right?
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Yes. For more details see what we posted a few days ago: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512410

Regarding the age, it's just a trend. You could get an old 1-7 or a new 1-10. Decide what you want and then buy that. The point is just that it could be harder to find a used 1-7.
 
wildphil24 said:
No.

Most Classic green used to be 1-10. New ones are often 1-7.
The situation is probably similar for Black special.

Your best bet is to measure the lenght for a full rotation with your cleaning rod.
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I have yet to see a 1:7 in a Black but you never know what shows up these days.. :pirate:
 
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