No end to my 10/22 problems.

Marilius

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CGN, I seek your knowledge to try to fix my 10/22.

I recently upgraded to a Boyd's Evolution stock, and Dlask 12.5 bull barrel w/linear comp, and grabbed a few HC3R mags and some Butler Creek Steel Lips. I took it to the range and had a lot of failure to feed issues. Rounds wouldn't seat all the way in the chamber, they'd get jammed in the receiver, not going into the barrel at all. Every round was getting damaged as the gun cycled. It was wearing off copper from the top of the round. This happened with the HC3R's and the Butler Creeks. Factory 10 rounder fed fine.

So I came home, tried to diagnose it. Polished the inside of the receiver, to help feeding. Got a fellow CGN'er to radius my bolt. Polished the feed lips on my mags. Reassemble everything, load a fresh mag in, first round jammed. And the second. And so on. With both HC3R and BC. I take all my upgrades off. Totally back to factory components. Feeds perfectly. Every round, with every mag. Tried manually cycling a few rounds, and none of that rubbing off of metal. Swap out the stock, leaving the factory barrel. First few rounds cycle ok, then jams in the HC3R. I try putting rearward and downward pressure on the mag, thinking the mag is not seating properly. That fixed it for the most part. 90-95% good cycling. Stopped putting pressure on it, and back to poor cycling.

Lastly, stick the Dlask barrel back on there. Every single round jams. Try applying the same pressure, it gets better, but still pretty poor.

So CGN, it would seem the Boyd's stock is somehow allowing the mags to seat improperly. And this problem is exacerbated by the barrel. What can I do to solve this? Would an aftermarket receiver and trigger group tighten up the tolerances for the magwell to the point it would cycle better? Do I simply give up and go back to stock? Different barrel? Different stock? I loved this gun when it was stock, and I want to love it with these new parts. Please assist.
 
Your mags are the problem as far as the barrel goes my guess is the extractor cut is not being lined up perfect.
Ensure your barrel is installed properly and try new mags or borrow one and see, at the top of this page theres a sticky for ruger tips and tricks there is something in there about modding the bc mags since they tend to have a bur on them. I have not done this as I exclusively use factory mags in my rugers.
 
What kinds of ammo are you using?

If that is a DLask Xtreme chamber it is much tighter than a typical 10/22 barrel.

A typical rimfire barrel is built with pretty loose tolerances because .22lr ammo tends to be pretty crappy and inconsistent. The barrel's chambers are made with a sloppy chamber in order to function reliably.

A match barrel will have a much tighter chamber as this is a key component of improving accuracy.

Try some better ammo would be my first suggestion, and try the factory mags to see what happens.

Of course as mentioned above there could be issues with alignment of the extractor, but it is pretty hard to mess up the install of the barrel. It could be that the extractor cut in the barrel is not deep enough, but this would or should not be causing the damage to the rounds you mention. The bolt just wouldn't close all the way...
 
I've gone through 2 HC3R mags! I'm guessing there are more people out there than just a few.
However almost all the people having issues have aftermarket barrels and stocks!
The dlask" barrel I had was very pick on ammo! The Tactical solutions barrel eats just about anything but Win HV HP. They seem to have extra lead on the sides of the bullets and yes when feeding, my bolt would shave off a good part of the bullet. Even my AE hp bullets would sometimes be shaved.
However, I switched to M-22 and peters round nose, and no issues at all!!!!
I didn't read what ammo you used.
Again, when I did have issues, when I pulled back on the bottom of the HC3R mag, it worked just fine. I also filled the mag with 25 rounds and let it sit a week!!!
Check the HC3R mag post on this forum please!!! lots of help other than me!
 
Damn. Thought I included all relevant information, and forgot ammo :p I've tried CCI Blazers, Federal bulk packs, and Winchester 333 and the Winchester 1330 FPS Super-X. Same results with all the above. And the Dlask barrel has the Sporter chamber, which I selected specifically because it has looser tolerances. I'd rather have a gun that eats everything and works, than a really picky gun.
 
I would suggest you sand the inside of the magwell to relive it a bit so the receiver is holding the mags, not the cutout in the stock...

I would start on the back side since pressure in that direction aids feeding.

I would also do the paper test to see if the stock is putting pressure on the barrel...

Boyd's does say that fitting may be required...
 
As far as the mag goes. Yes I sanded lightly the back of the HC3R mag. it helped abit. More than I thought.
However if you read into the HC3R mag issues, most people have commented on filling the mag and letting the spring get use to the 25 rounds!
It helps also!
 
I had a really tight Dlask barrel, I used tactical innovations mags and was able to adjust them to get a better feed angle. There was a burr in the chamber were the extractor relief was cut as well, it took a lot of polishing to get that out.
 
My 8.5" Dlasks barrel had the same problem when it was new. Now the problem is gone after I put over ten of thousands round through it. They usually fuzz on ammo.
 
little_airwolf said:
As far as the mag goes. Yes I sanded lightly the back of the HC3R mag. it helped abit. More than I thought.
However if you read into the HC3R mag issues, most people have commented on filling the mag and letting the spring get use to the 25 rounds!
It helps also!
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Filling the mag and letting it sit for a week was the only thing that got my BC mags feeding decently.
 
I had the same problem until I used an adjustable V block. It allowed me to seat the barrel a fraction higher and no more jams, (mine were hitting the chamber a bit low). I have a Dlask Receiver and Fabarms barrel. I have 5-6 magazines and at first only 1 magazine worked, after the V-block change all mags work. It took me a few months and some experimenting to figure this out.

A bit OT, but the funny thing was when I first put it together, it would empty the 10 round mag on the first shot (the one magazine that worked). All ten rounds would fire with one squeeze of the trigger. Cool but illegal and not at all safe. Problem there was the trigger group. I had a new one in at first and it was a bit stiff. The bolt would come back far enough to eject a round but just not far enough to #### the hammer but enough to give the hammer force to fire the next chambered round. I swapped out for a trigger group that had seen thousands of rounds and problem solved. Kids. please don't try this at home....I did eventually put the "problem" trigger group in my older 10-22 and it worked fine there with the broken in bolt and receiver.
 
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