I send it to Vortex Canada, who sends it to the US, back to Vortex Canada, back to me. Boxed up for the mail Monday. I'll see how long the next one lasts.
No more Vortex for me
- Thread starter emerson
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I send it to Vortex Canada, who sends it to the US, back to Vortex Canada, back to me. Boxed up for the mail Monday. I'll see how long the next one lasts.
andrew3081
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Bushenell is the same thing.
Really doesn't make a difference where the scope is manufactured. They are built to a price point.
To achieve 'that' price point something has to give, whether it be optics, tracking or waterproofing or all three.
I have two Vortex scopes both PST's one has ~800 rounds on a 300WM the other has ~3000 rounds on it on several different rifles, no issues at all.
I have Luepolds for years and have sent three in for repair....latest one last year.
No issues with the Bushnells either.
Thinking the key here is to buy scopes in the upper mid range, so your looking at $600 for fixed power and in the range of $12-1500 for variables.
There is little 'junk' in the above price ranges.
Bushnell elite Tactical 6500 4.5-30 x 50, 9850 rounds, 308 rem 700, flawless.
Bushnell elite tactical 4200 6-24 x 50, 1200 rounds, on 3 different rifles, 2 - Norc m305 and rem 700, flawless
200 of those at a range the rest in all types of weather and conditions, in a truck, on a quad, in the bush, snow, rain, hot and freezing. Each abut 7 years old.
Keepin them.
I had a Vortex "Crossfire" that wouldn't hold zero. I sent it back to them, got it replaced, and promptly sold it at a gun show. I have a Redfield "Revolution" on my Winchester Mod.100 and it's excellent. I have a Leupold VariX III 3-10X40 on my Ruger .308 and it too is excellent for a 20 yr.old+ scope. My own opinion is that price point is not the determinant for what does or does not constitute good glass. To me it's kind of like cars. You can buy a good name and find yourself stuck with a lemon. I've hear good and bad about Vortex. You pays your money and takes your chances.
To me it seems vortex has become a bit stale and no longer hits the same price point it used to. Made in the Philippines and China mostly. Maybe the higher end glass still comes from japan? Lots of new products from the less generic manufacturers available to us these days. I feel the warranty that vortex offers has less appeal than it used to. You can get Japanese glass for less money with the same warranty for the most part.
- Location
- Grande Prairie, Alberta
I'm another one that no longer uses Vortex. I had a Crossfire on a .22WMR, it wouldn't hold zero. Replaced it and put it on the 10/22. Wouldn't hold zero. Replaced it and sold it. It was a Crossfire though.
I put a Viper on my 7mm Rem Mag and couldn't get it to shoot well and didn't trust it. Sold it to a friend, he seems to like it.
I had a Sparc on my 10/22, and sold it before anything went wrong and because I didn't need a red dot anymore.
My 10/22 and 7mm both wear Bushnell Elite 3200 scopes. Never had an issue with them and they're awesome value for the dollar, especially when bought on sale.
I put a Viper on my 7mm Rem Mag and couldn't get it to shoot well and didn't trust it. Sold it to a friend, he seems to like it.
I had a Sparc on my 10/22, and sold it before anything went wrong and because I didn't need a red dot anymore.
My 10/22 and 7mm both wear Bushnell Elite 3200 scopes. Never had an issue with them and they're awesome value for the dollar, especially when bought on sale.
...Why is that? Are you so familiar with the internals of this particular line of scope that you can dictate a maximum amount of recoil that it can withstand??
This is just heresay. If the mfg doesn't say not to, you should be able to. A $400 scope should be able to hold up to just about anything; this isn't a $40 tasco piece of junk. This is just a manufacturing error, that will be fixed. It happens.
I gave Vortex a chance with a 4-12 that I put on a 243. Good enough glass for a 400$ scope but wouldn't track worth a crap. So far has held zero, but the friggin around to adjust poi when changing loads is a pita. I like it that they have a great warranty, but hate the hassle of warranty claims.
Yeah I dropped one of mine and smashed the turret, they replaced it in no time.
In my case, I would never had been able to afford 4 scopes for my rifles, with the features vortex offers.
Then again, I have nothing lower than their PST line.
I also like the fact that it doesn't matter if you buy used, the warranty still applies.
That way they hold their resale quite well.
In my case, I would never had been able to afford 4 scopes for my rifles, with the features vortex offers.
Then again, I have nothing lower than their PST line.
I also like the fact that it doesn't matter if you buy used, the warranty still applies.
That way they hold their resale quite well.
This. I have the Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24 on a .308 AR and the 4.5-27x56 on a .308 Precision bolt-gun. Both are outstanding optics, and are worth every penny of their purchase price. That's precisely the point - you get what you pay for. Buy the Vortex "Diamondback" line and you get a cheap scope prone to failure when mounted on heavy calibres. No real surprise there. Bushnell may make more reliable entry-level scopes, I don't honestly know because I won't buy low-end optics. What I do know is that much like my Vortex optics, my Bushnell 3.5-21x50 DMR and 4.5-30x56 XRS scopes are outstanding performers. "Buy once, cry once" definitely holds true when it comes to optics. Look to the higher-end optics offered by any of the big names and you will most likely end up with acceptable performance. Of course, YMMV...
andrew3081
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Okay?
I had a few votex viper pst 1-4x24 throughout the years and no issue on ar15, 308 rifles etc.
I currently have a vortex viper pst 6-24 on 308 win bolt action and no issues.
- Location
- Meaford Ontario
I have sent back 4 leupold scopes for different issues.... What's your point?
If you want a shoulder to cry on, you won't find it here.
If you want a shoulder to cry on, you won't find it here.
Are you a business handling warrantee issues?Unless you have dozens of scopes in regular use, I would feel that isa high failure rate for an individual. I would buy another brand.
Any individual's sample size is so small as to be statistically irrelevant. Thing is, we have nothing else to make decisions by, other than the experience of others with similarly small sample sizes. I have 2 Vortex optics that have failed. Not disappointing performance, just broken. I have 2 Leopolds that have not. $2-$300 more for the Leos apiece. The long eye relief 2-6or10X options are limited. I've been bite by too short eye relief before. If I was buying new again the VX3 would get the nod. If the replacement Vortex stays together it fills a good niche.
I see these Vortex bashing threads and this is exactly what I think everytime. You buy cheap (and yes...$400 is considered cheap when it comes to optics), you get what you pay for. I have bought $400 Leupold's and had issues with them too. Heck I had a $900 Leupold VX-3 fail on me. I certainly wouldn't put a scope worth less than $1000 on a heavy recoiling caliber like a 375.
