no resident hunting licence but what if you have 2 residents 2 homes

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Hello
I hope this is the right place to post this but if not admin please help move it to the right location.
Anyways this is how it started i built a house out in the elgin erea ontario ive been paying electricity for more then a year and other services Ive been looking around on how to change my hunting licence.
I live in quebec I have 2 houses I cant move to ontario because I dont have a job and it seem hard to find one there.

I built this house on a 40 acre piece of landf because i love to hunt.
Ive talk to folks asking what should i do about my licence i have 2 residance why should i destroy a hunting permint to acccomodate another .
I have a turkey licence in quebec and a regular hunting licence that go with it
in ontario they want me to take the course over including the turkey course as well.
Now in quebec we have strick laws on hunting much more then ontario im not saying ontario is bad but why do I have to take a course again and loose my quebec licence.they say i have to choose
why can i have both licence if i have 2 residents one in quebec one in ontario
if i do this i cant hunt in quebec because non resident and if i dont im none resident in ontario the tags are 200$ buck to go deer hunting on my own land not crown land my own land this is wrong
does anyone understand what im saying
what your advice
thanks
 
You would be far better off to take the course and become an Ontario resident and get your license..... maintain your residence in Quebec and don't tell them you moved and you will then maintain your Quebec hunting license....

If you become an Ontario resident, your income taxes and pension deductions will be much much lower....
 
Did you ask if your PQ turkey course could be honored in Ont? Sometimes if you can show an application form, or old turkey licence they accept this as proof.
 
Ontario Turkey course/exam is easy and not that expensive. Save your headache and do the course. As for resident status it boils down to number of days you reside in the Province per calendar year. You can find that info on either Provincial website.

cheers,
 
Even though you own property in Ontario you do not meet the hunting "definition" of a resident based on what you have stated.

To be considered a resident for hunting licenses you must "have actually resided for six consecutive months in the previous 12 months."

So legally you would have to buy a non-resident license.

There's a ton of American property owners that own and run hunt camps in Ontario, pay business tax etc but are still non-residents.

Simply owning property does not mean you are a resident.
 
I own a house there i have a civic address i pay my taxes i pay hydro satalite dish whT else do i need i can change licence if i want
The only reaon i didnt do it was because they wanted me to pay immision test on 2008 and a 2013 autin mini and mazda 3
 
wxplore said:
Hello
I hope this is the right place to post this but if not admin please help move it to the right location.
Anyways this is how it started i built a house out in the elgin erea ontario ive been paying electricity for more then a year and other services Ive been looking around on how to change my hunting licence.
I live in quebec I have 2 houses I cant move to ontario because I dont have a job and it seem hard to find one there.

I built this house on a 40 acre piece of landf because i love to hunt.
Ive talk to folks asking what should i do about my licence i have 2 residance why should i destroy a hunting permint to acccomodate another .
I have a turkey licence in quebec and a regular hunting licence that go with it
in ontario they want me to take the course over including the turkey course as well.
Now in quebec we have strick laws on hunting much more then ontario im not saying ontario is bad but why do I have to take a course again and loose my quebec licence.they say i have to choose
why can i have both licence if i have 2 residents one in quebec one in ontario
if i do this i cant hunt in quebec because non resident and if i dont im none resident in ontario the tags are 200$ buck to go deer hunting on my own land not crown land my own land this is wrong
does anyone understand what im saying
what your advice
thanks
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Simple enough. You either move, or you pay non-resident fees to hunt in Ontario. Nothing you can do about it, and nobody in either Provincial system really cares how many houses you own or what bills you pay, you only get to qualify for one of the residences as the Primary one.

I figure if you can afford to buy land and build on it, the non-resident fees will likely be the cheapest part of the whole deal.

Only way I know to have residency in two Provinces is to be from Alberta, keep your Electoral district there, and be in the Canadian Forces (RCMP too, maybe?) posted elsewhere. Alberta allows the Forces guys that vote there, to maintain their Resident Status, even if they qualify for Resident elsewhere. AFAIK, they are pretty much the only one that does.

Cheers
Trev
 
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yep like i did last hunt buy outdoors card and non resident deer tag i want to get another for small game yotes on the land want to get rid of them

Thanks
 
Think of this like the Mike Duffy question.

After living in Ontario for years was he actually a resident of PEI?

The court is still trying to sort this out.
 
trevj said:
Simple enough. You either move, or you pay non-resident fees to hunt in Ontario. Nothing you can do about it, and nobody in either Provincial system really cares how many houses you own or what bills you pay, you only get to qualify for one of the residences as the Primary one.

I figure if you can afford to buy land and build on it, the non-resident fees will likely be the cheapest part of the whole deal.

Only way I know to have residency in two Provinces is to be from Alberta, keep your Electoral district there, and be in the Canadian Forces (RCMP too, maybe?) posted elsewhere. Alberta allows the Forces guys that vote there, to maintain their Resident Status, even if they qualify for Resident elsewhere. AFAIK, they are pretty much the only one that does.

Cheers
Trev
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Perfect answer. And to add, playing bugger with the residency system is called poaching. THIS kind of messing around is why hunters get labelled poorly. Do like everyone else, and hunt where you reside.

The RCMP get to hunt where they are based on residence. They don't get to go home and hunt.
 
Hey thats not right i dont poach you understand that i respect wild life and i respect the land im on, if you have nothing to say dont say anything
I pay for non residance licence to hunt thats un called for sound like your Prejudice.
I can say the same if your in quebec go home and hunt were you reside.
crap like that starts arguments and wars man Ive been around for 51 years have some respect.
 
Wxplore, If it were me I'd keep both residents and declare my primary residence in Ontario. You will save something like 10% of your Gross in taxes. And you can still work in Quebec while Living in Ontario. Either way i believe you can have 1 resident license in one province and you'll have to buy a non resident license in the second province. It'll be up to you to decide which is which.

Also, i wouldn't (and don't) believe anything anyone tells me on internet forums. Seek Legal advice from professionals.
 
I don't think you can be a resident of more than one province at the same time. That would be like being in 2 places at the same time. When I moved from Quebec to Ontario way back in 1982 I had to take the Ontario Hunter safety course even though I had taken the Quebec course. The reason I presume is because every province has different rules, in some areas of hunting. Geography and game populations differ from one to the other. As an example you are allowed party hunting for deer in Ontario...I don't know if it is legal in Quebec now..at least it wasn't in the regulations way back in the 70's. However my Quebec driver's licence was recognized and I didn't have to take a test..just gave me an Ontario Licence.
 
wxplore said:
Hey thats not right i dont poach you understand that i respect wild life and i respect the land im on, if you have nothing to say dont say anything
I pay for non residance licence to hunt thats un called for sound like your Prejudice.
I can say the same if your in quebec go home and hunt were you reside.
crap like that starts arguments and wars man Ive been around for 51 years have some respect.
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I never said you did. But what you are attempting is poaching. You can only be a resident in 1 province. Lying about being a resident in 2 to gain the advantages of a taxpayer in another region is poaching as you are skirting the laws that prevent that. As a Saskatchewan resident, we have many young guys that moved to Alberta try to keep hunting as a resident here at home. That's called poaching because you look to take the advantages of a resident but you don't pay any taxes here. That's why non-residents pay more and have more restricted seasons. If I was an Ontario resident, I'd be upset you are trying to do this.
 
I will get more info on this yes the best bet will be to take the course again this spring and go from there.
you cant be at 2 places at once last fall i had non residence licence to hunt deerand theres no restrictions for the hunter. I didnt hunt here in Quebec I dont have land we rent land to hunt
but with work and stuff i didnt hunt in Quebec. either way licence in quebec or ontario I can still hunt with non residence licence.
you pay more for the tag its all about money nothing else. just like the cars you can drive around ontario example with your car but if you plate the car in ontario pay for imission test on a 2013 car but if i dont change plates drive all you want around the province all about money.
No we can hunt here with party and dogs that will never happen in Quebec
 
Most provinces I've held hunting licences in, state you may only hold 1 licence. I believe your answer will come in the form of that stipulation. Cut and dry.
 
CreamySmooth said:
I never said you did. But what you are attempting is poaching. You can only be a resident in 1 province. Lying about being a resident in 2 to gain the advantages of a taxpayer in another region is poaching as you are skirting the laws that prevent that. As a Saskatchewan resident, we have many young guys that moved to Alberta try to keep hunting as a resident here at home. That's called poaching because you look to take the advantages of a resident but you don't pay any taxes here. That's why non-residents pay more and have more restricted seasons. If I was an Ontario resident, I'd be upset you are trying to do this.
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You do t think he pays tax on his property in Ontario?.... Or when he buys items at the local stores and gas stations?
 
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