No wall tent, no camper November moose camp?

blargon said:
Yep. Rent a Uhaul enclosed trailer. You be high and dry and no draft. You can use propane heater, just fire it up for a bit before bed, then shut it off when sleeping. Fire it again in morning.
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this if your using a trailer, letting something run the whole night is a BAD idea, but sure is nice warmingup a bit and getting humidity out
 
sheephunter said:
Just be very careful with heating devices in an enclosed trailer as CO2 poising is a real concern.
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Same goes for dry ice... I know we are talking about winter climates already but some folks pack dry ice for their food while camping.

Deadly stuff as it thaws in enclosed spaces. Had a close call once years back. Keep it outside the vehicle and sleeping area.
 
Squamch said:
Poly/tarp shack, buy an asbestos enclosure zipper at your local hardware store, which is like a stick on tarp zipper strip, and dig in the bottom flap under a layer of sod to prevent drafts. Tuck tape will help, and don't plan on saving or reusing the poly or tarp. Get a GOOD sleeping bag and gear, and have a heater by your cot to get cranking when it gets really uncomfortable.
we did a late October hunt a couple years back, it was -15 during the day, and colder at night, my brother survived, and all he had was a ####ty tent, three blankets, and a dog.
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Sorry, this one sounds like a recipe for disaster. Air tight enclosures and unventilated combustion appliances don't go well together. Also, if you don't heat it, condensation will freeze on the poly and when you do heat it, it will rain. Trust me. :)

Grizz
 
This is going to sound really girlie but you should check out Pinterest. There are a #### ton of awesome MANLY ideas of stuff you can build. Camping, survival and firearm projects.

MD said:
I've got a moose draw for November in central B.C. and I'm wondering how to make a comfortable camp without a camper, trailer or wall tent. Those November nights are long and cold.

I was thinking I could make a frame of poles and cover it with tarps but it would still be freezing. I might find a way to put a stove in it, but it would be so drafty I'd be heating the outside.
Or I could make a big lean-to style with a fire at the open end.

Maybe we could have our individual sleeping tents under the tarp too, or on their own away from the cook tent common area I'm still trying to figure this out.

Any ideas?

Thank you in advance.
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I'll be in 3-31A.

I love the A5 Rob.
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I can't figure out how to delete only specific messages. There are some I want to keep.
 
Be it tarp or enclosed trailer, I would suggest some kind of insulation to lay your sleeping bag on top of, like a sheet of rigid foam insulation. Maybe a housing construction sub-division near you may have a large enough piece as scrap. When laying on the ground the cold just seems to come up and seep right into your bones.
 
Last year, region 3-30, first week of november was -20 ish. We were on the plateau east of clinton and above north side loon lake. I would expect 3_31A to have been the same as it's a short jaunt across the hwy. We had 1 foot snow and very icy conditions nov 4 to 12 while chasin mature bucks and doe tags.
1 absolute do not leave at home item is good quality tire chains. Sized semi truck highway chains are the best.
 
You can probably get a used car shelter for wayyyy under $200. Few minor adjustments to install a small wood stove and you're good to go. And yeah, the foam or a sponge foam mattress is almost essential, even in a cot, as the stuffing in your bag (sleeping, that is) gets compressed and the cold will get to you. If you do go with propane, make sure to leave a small gap at the bottom of the shelter. Doesn't have to be very big.
 
GuiltySpark said:
This is going to sound really girlie but you should check out Pinterest. There are a #### ton of awesome MANLY ideas of stuff you can build. Camping, survival and firearm projects.
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You were right... that sounded girly.

OP... we have been late season hunting for years with nothing more than a couple tarps (CT - $30), a dome tent (Wally World - $60) and a ridge pole. Spike a ridge pole (straight pole that you cut in the bush) horizontally between two trees about eight feet high over some firm level ground), finding the spot is the hardest part)... remove all branch stubs from the ridge pole first... pull a large tarp over the ridge pole and tie off the ends low... so it blocks wind and water runs off... set-up your tent underneath and adjust your camp... if you can drive right to the spot, bring a couple folding tables (or quarter sheets of 1/2" plywood)... either get off the ground on a cot, or put your sleeping bag on a good, thick foam pad... cold migrates in from the ground... we are completely comfortable... a propane lantern or small heater takes the chill off at bedtime and in the morning when you are dressing... but I echo the sentiments above... DON'T sleep with the appliance on. Good luck.
 
A heavy canvas tarp lean to is not a bad idea. Old timers relied on the idea alot. Just make sure to cut some serious firewood before doing anything else. Townsend Whelen always used this idea in the old days.

Darryl
 
MD said:
Hoytcannon, that's sounding in the ballpark of what I can do.

Thank you,

MD
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No problem... we have been hunting this way for over forty years... over the years we have tried all sorts of frame tents and pole structures... but you can't beat a single ridge pole and tarp, for ease and effectiveness. We cut poles about 40" long and sharpen the small end, drive them into the ground in a 2'X4' pattern and nail a quarter sheet of plywood to them at the corners... just tap the corners down until the table is level... a couple cross bars underneath and an 18"X48 plywood for shelving... two of the tables and a lower one for dining, make a cheap and organized camp, with a couple folding chairs... depending on the layout, you might do a separate ridgepole and tarp for the kitchen and dining area.
 
what we normally do is back a couple trucks up so the tailgates are facing each other , with about 15 to 20 feet between them .

then run poles over the top of the trucks so they over hang about 10 feet on each side of the trucks . ( most of the time the trucks have canopy's , campers or at least a frame meant to hold a boat , to tie the poles to )

then run poles the other way , tying the 2 trucks together , then tarp everything off .

so you end up with roughly a 40 foot x 30 foot enclosure , 8 to 10 feet tall ......

for heat we use one of these , http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...s/610mm-Air-Tight-Heater/_/N-ntimn/R-I5530320
most of the time you can get 3 or 4 years out of them before they rot away . ( I found that 3 to 4 inches of 3/4" crush gravel in the bottom makes them last longer , when your done using it , flip it over and empty it out )

we have been north of Prince George more than a few times in - 15c with this setup , and very comfortable .
 
We've settled on an "outfitters TeePee tent". Guy from kamloops area makes em. So easy to set up, literally in less than 20 mins, stove too. Fits in a duffle bag and super easy to pack around it's ridiculous.
We have a vintage prospectors stove my brother donated to our hunting stash, compact little bugger but burns wood, diesel, gasoline, kerosene ect.
We all have the deluxe army cots from cabelas and a foam layer on top. Good winter bags as well. We fit 4 guys comfortably and have used this set up in temps down to -30 night time.

Whatever you do end up doing, good luck on your hunt and if you guys need a hand, I'm real close to your hunting area, just p.m. me from the hwy if you have any troubles. I'll be in Chasm regularly throughout november
 
buy a packpacking wood stove that folds up then setup a tarp put a hole for the smoke pipe and it works very well. Folds down small to keeps you warm for several hours and it can get toasty even with a small wood stove...
 
Man al you guys and your luxuriate setups. I have a good sleeping bag, a 4" memory foam, a cheap tent, and when it rains I'll throw a tarp over the tent. Never needed more than a sweater and sweat pants in sub in sub zero temps.
A good sleeping bag and a nice chunk of foam are key, air mattress's are terrible in the cold.
 
fuzzynuts54 said:
Man al you guys and your luxuriate setups. I have a good sleeping bag, a 4" memory foam, a cheap tent, and when it rains I'll throw a tarp over the tent. Never needed more than a sweater and sweat pants in sub in sub zero temps.
A good sleeping bag and a nice chunk of foam are key, air mattress's are terrible in the cold.
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Lol. No way am I freezing my noogies off. I bought a prospector's wall tent, 12X14, 5 foot walls. It's a huge room, cots, tables, lanterns, all the comforts of home. And a wood stove in the corner, so we're always toasty warm. I don't mind being out in the weather, but at the end of the day, there's nothing like kcikng off your boots in some real heat, and having enough headroom to stretch out. I did it bigtime, but I've seen lots of people doing it with just tarb and some poles too - the effect is the same. Find a good method of heating with wood - you can make something out of a 5 gallan can, and make sure it's big enough to walk around in a bit. That's really all you need for comfort.
 
Ha, this thread just reminded me about the wood stove I made years ago with a stainless steel beer keg. Still have it out in the shop somewhere.
That trip, we got late season elk and moose draws up in tumbler ridge.
My god, that beer keg saved our lives.... And kept our moose quarters from freezing solid LOL
We made our meat hanging tent with the ridge pole method and tarps for roof and walls.
Our tent was 2 big tarps, wrapped around a Tee pee structure made with 8, 10 to 12 foot pecker poles. Dug out a shallow fire pit in the middle for the beer keg, surrounded it with rocks and slept like babies in the -20 to -30 , snowing daily weather.
That was one of the coolest trips in my years of hunting. We were SO unprepared for what we encountered but the inner boyscout kicked in and we got it done and went home with 2 of our 3 tags filled :D
 
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