No4 rifle 7.62mm H.B. Target gun. What did I find?

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Got this almost new rifle this past weekend.
I saw it come out of a guys truck, and I had to have it.
7.62 by 51 millimeter brand new barrel, unmarked action except for the engraving and a brand new sterling mag.
Front end of barrel has 2 tapped holes for a sight. Faint outline of locktite.
Rear sight pin hole has been reamed.
Bishop rear stock and wide forend, target style with a tapped hole rail inletted.
British proof marks on barrel and receiver.

What is it?

The gentleman i got it from sail he and his father shot DCRA.
I wish i got his phone number, im sure he has a PH sight for this.


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Jayzuz!!!!! Looks like a keeper, for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!! Check and see what an original Sterling magazine is worth. You might be surprised.
 
...looking oer the pics and description...

ffuuuu that's a nice rifle. no irons? fixtures for those or scope only?

target-accessory slotted fore end? More pics, please.
 
The barrel looks like a C3 fitted to a Enfield action (Has the same profile). Interesting. The sterling mag is worth (My guess) about $300 - 400. I bought one about 10 years ago for $200.

Pete
 
Could be a Charnwood Ordnance job. They were big Enfield specialists in the UK and did all kinds of conversions and liked to put semi-official looking markings on some of them. The butt is a bit weird for a target rifle; looks more like a sporter; what makes you think it's Bishop? Forend looks like it was from a Parker Hale T4

Post a photo of the extractor maybe: .303 or 7.62?

No foresight; is there a shoulder for one?
 
It appears to be a "home-built" version of a Parker-Hale T4, by someone with access to a pantograph engraver.

Charnwood's are serial numbered with a "C.O. Y/y -N/n" standing for "C."harnwood "O."rdnance (19)"89-01"

Does the receiver have 7.62mm 19T or 20T proof markings?
 
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Doesn't look like it was put together recently. Could be the butt was added on this side of the water. Could have been made up by Parker Hale near the end. The 89-01 could be correct or maybe not. That was getting near the end for the No4 competitively.
 
Sweet! Try collectors source, they might have parker hale front sight post c/w screws. If not they always come up on ebay.
 
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The rifle doesn't have a Sterling ejector and doesn't have a .303 ejector screw. Since the Sterling mag doesn't have an ejector either, when you pull back a .308 round, does it just stay on the bolt? Or is it actually ejecting?
Had enough experience with this setup...

At the least, you need to get a longer 3BA screw and tune the length of it such that it sticks out just far enough to not foul/gouge the bolt. Then, with a strong extractor spring, some ejection will take place.

Definitely doesn't look like a Canadian Arsenals job...more like Brit, either Charnwood or other.

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" The butt is a bit weird for a target rifle; looks more like a sporter; what makes you think it's Bishop?."

Its got a bishop buttplate on it ? :)

It has a 308 extractor, seems to cycle brass fine.
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Here is a Parker Hale T4 for comparison, As 6167 and Cantom mentioned, the stamping sure looks like Charnwood,, I have had a couple of the Charnwood 7.62 conversions and the stamping and silver paint look the same.

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