Noble No 1 trap

That was Tom's way of doing things, so that buyers of surplus powders would have an idea of what they were looking at.

At one time they offered Nobel powders from 78-86

I'm digging way back but I have it in my mind that "Trap 1" is Nobel 78 and that the load for my 12 gauge trap shotgun was 20.5 grains for 1oz loads and 19.5 grains for 1 1/8oz loads

Digging your way back to my post (#12)? lol.

If the box was not previously opened then it's Higginson / Ammomart # 1 aka Nobel 78.

I connected all the dots for 250, all that's left to do is to download or get the Nobel loading manual from Gandalf.
 
No worries. Interesting stuff like this is fun.

Please remember to update us after you test those loads.

Cheers!
 
Digging your way back to my post (#12)? lol.

If the box was not previously opened then it's Higginson / Ammomart # 1 aka Nobel 78.

I connected all the dots for 250, all that's left to do is to download or get the Nobel loading manual from Gandalf.

I didn't realize this was a pizzing contest. Sorry but I didn't read your #12 post but my load data enhanced it a bit.

The loads I listed are actually part of Higginsons suggested loads for this powder, which I helped Tom put together, so he could print it in his handout paper, which came with orders of powder.
 
I have some N80....really dirty stuff ,I've been using 1.0 oz loads,22.0 grs,Remington hull,Winchester primer and had to fiddle around with a lower wad type and high wad pressure ,all that powder made it hard to crimp....it kept pushing the shot up.I should of used a straight wall hull and worked with that..N80 has little blue dot specs in it too,not sure about Trap1
 
>>>>>QUOTE This link might be useful...
https://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/threads/nobel-magnum-6-powder.82124/
Excerpt: We know, based on Ammomart's sales sheets I have in my possession that their powders were made by Nobel in Glasgow Scotland. This information is also on their sheet:
We carry 4 Nobel Shotgun Powders: 1 (Fastest burning, similar to Red Dot, green identifier), 2 (Medium load, Unique type, Yellow identifier), 4 (For heavy field and magnum loads- Herco equivalent - 12 gau. 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 oz. loads) , & 6 (For Magnum loads).
The manual says that they only produced 3 shotgun powders at the time;
NGSP 78 the fastest of the Nobel shotgun range. Had green identifier granules.
NGSP 80 mid range speed wise of the Nobel shotgun powders. Had blue identifier granules.
NGSP 82 the slowest of the Nobel shotgun range. Had yellow identifier granules.

Further down is a table that lists the Nobel name & the Higginson name:
Nobel Rifle 0 = Higginson / Ammomart 104
Nobel Rifle 1 = Higginson / Ammomart 103
Nobel Pistol 3 = Higginson / Ammomart 16
Nobel Shotgun 78 = Higginson / Ammomart 1
Nobel Shotgun 82 = Higginson / Ammomart 2<<<<<ENDQUOTE

Gawd! It's been 9 years since I started that thread on the stalking directory!

Tempus Fugit!

;-)

My research determined they were not from the 80 series, but rather Nobel's earlier 60 series of shotgun powders [60, 62, 64 & 69, aka Herter's 160, 162, 164 & 169 respectively] that the 80 series replaced. [Still trying to find a Nobel or Herter's loading manual from that era, ie. 1960's - late 1970's].

Tom bought the remaining stock from the Bankruptcy Trustee of Herter's in Waseca, MN. a very long time ago.

I've been using the Nobel Magnum 6 I asked about in that thread for 'lo these many years & still have all my fingers, toes, eyes, & the issued number of body parts!
 
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