Noise Comparison

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Looking at varminter setups, and having a tough time deciding between 223 vs 22-250 or 243.

Is there a noticeable noise difference between 223 vs 22-250/243?

Above everything I'd like to keep the peace among the farmers in the area...

Anyone with experience or comments is welcomed.

Thx
 
They are all loud! Personally 243 is the best choice of the listed calibers. Best all round and can easily take medium size game. I'd say it's the louder of them though, but I don't have a decibel meter.

North
 
223 would be quieter than the 22-250, which is quieter than the 243 (243 being the loudest). Assuming they have similar barrel lengths.
There is also an increase in recoil, not that it is substantial, but something to consider.
Also the range at which you want to shoot varmints is also something to consider, and the conditions (super windy?).
204 ruger might be worth a look, I don't own one, but they shoot flat, and are quieter than a 223 (allegedly).
Or get one of each, try them out, and see which ones the farmers grumble about.
 
I can't see a .204 being more quiet than a .223. Noise is usually a result of how overbore a cartridge is and barrel length. Any center fire cartridge is going to be loud. A .223 is not noticeably more quiet than a .243 at a distance. If one is going to cause noise complaints, they all are.
 
It related to case capacity and expansion ratio.
With same pressure and barrel length, loudness is:
223 Rem
22-250
243 Win

I owned a Remington 700 VTR 243 Win with a 20” integral brake barrel and it was incredibly loud.
Currently, I’m happy shooting a 22” 223 Rem.

Alex
 
223 would be quieter than the 22-250, which is quieter than the 243 (243 being the loudest). Assuming they have similar barrel lengths.
There is also an increase in recoil, not that it is substantial, but something to consider.
Also the range at which you want to shoot varmints is also something to consider, and the conditions (super windy?).
204 ruger might be worth a look, I don't own one, but they shoot flat, and are quieter than a 223 (allegedly).
Or get one of each, try them out, and see which ones the farmers grumble about.

Finally a question in this forum I might be able to help with. :) First-off, it's non-farmer neighbors likely to be the issue...if the noise even proves to be one. I've owned varmint guns in 17 Hornet, .204R, .223 and .243...and have shot groundhogs with .270 and 22-250 as well. (belonging to buddies) Now this is anecdotal, but my answer would mostly echo what's been said before. OF the 3, .223 seems to have the lowest report, 22-250 a little more, .243 a big jump up from either of those two others. Since someone commented on .204, my opinion on that is that it's very close to .223, but the sound seems "choked" a bit...so the perceived level of sound just "seems" a little less than .223. If that makes any sense. Now, from behind the trigger...the experience sort of parallels the noise thing. 223 has the least recoil, 22-250 maybe a tiny bit more, 243 has enough recoil to cause you to lose your sight picture through the scope. Meaning, you won't see the impact. Zero pain of course, but enough jump to move the gun. :) I like my hunting buddies too much to ever add a muzzle brake. :)

.204R is really a hand-loaders caliber, as I've found them the hardest to get good results with, using factory ammo. Granted, that's based on experiences with 2 rifles..only one of which I owned. For varmints up to coyote size, it might be the best tool for the job in my personal opinion...simply because of how easy it is to shoot well. (very flat trajectory) I don't currently own a .204, but it's the rifle next on the list for me. Goal is to have it up and running for spring of 2020. :) Most of my varmint hunting is centered around groundhogs, and even though farmers have no use for these marmots...I still believe it's important to deliver a quick demise to any living thing you put in your crosshairs. For that reason, I might also suggest that you focus on what ammo shoots best in the gun you choose, and try to use varmint bullets whenever possible. I only load with Hornady V-Max, which seem to almost always dump their energy inside their target. (vs blast through, and keep going)

I'll wrap my comments up buy recounting an incident last spring. I'd bought a CZ 527 Varmint in 17 Hornet, mostly because I was super curious about the caliber...but also thought it might be a good fit for groundhogs where I like to hunt them. As an added bonus, I figured the lower report would be appreciated by non-farmer neighbors. Anyhow, wasn't long before I had a complaint from one of these neighbors~using my 17 Hornet! I'd hunted that same farm with a .243! lol Not even in the same league from a power/report POV. (The farmer told me that neighbor squawks about everything, so ignore...and keep shooting :) ) Suffice to say, I never did pick calibers based on noise level...and the one time I thought it would be appreciated was the one and only time I ever got a complaint.

So, pick what works best...and have at 'er! If there is anything else I can help with, send me a PM.

Happy shooting!
 
cam1936 does have a point on they are all loud. I was comparing noise from the shooters perspective.
As AlexF mentions, if you have a brake that will make it noisier for the shooter.
 
What about the 22 hornet.

Also a great choice, but I chose the 17 Hornet (same parent case, so the OP knows) for the zippier performance. lol Big groundhogs have fallen instantly @ 200 yards with my 17 Hornet..an instant sleeping pill. Works like people say 17HMR does. :)

I did look for a CZ 527 in 22 Hornet for a long time though...and would like to own one someday.
 
cam1936 does have a point on they are all loud. I was comparing noise from the shooters perspective.
As AlexF mentions, if you have a brake that will make it noisier for the shooter.

It will make it noisier for someone beside the shooter
 
cam1936 does have a point on they are all loud. I was comparing noise from the shooters perspective.
As AlexF mentions, if you have a brake that will make it noisier for the shooter.

And a set of ear muffs takes care of the noise for the shooter. All guns are loud if they have a brake or not. Look after your hearing.
 
It will depend on the barrel length.

A longer barrel will help have complete powder burn, hence less noise.


Please use hearing protection regardless.
 
And a set of ear muffs takes care of the noise for the shooter. All guns are loud if they have a brake or not. Look after your hearing.

100% true, probably good for the OP to know that just because people are saying 223 is less noisy than 243...both require hearing protection. Calibers much less noisy than anything being discussed in this thread STILL require it. lol

As for muzzle brakes~it's part noise...but also the concussive force and debris making it miserable to be around. Hard to describe, but guaranteed to be very unpleasant. lol Hearing protection will protect your hearing, but still doesn't make it nice to be around. I've learned that the hard way, too many times. A couple of years back, shooting gophers...I was spotting while my nephew shot a few with a Tikka CTR in 308. Big, nasty muzzle brake too. lol I was beside, and about a foot back from where he was laying..and it literally blew my baseball cap off. No thanks!
 
If you’re concerned with loudness go with a 223.
It’s basically military cartridge so it designed for practicality first.
You get good but not great ballistic, excellent barrel life and reasonable muzzle blast.
The 22-250, 243 and even 270 are overbore cartridges and are almost beltless magnums.

My main varmint used to be a 243 but now am really happy with a 223.
What is lost in effective range 50-75 yards is more than gained in practicality.

Alex
 
I have the 3 cartridges listed. My go to for coyotes is a 243, but have used a 22 Hornet when calling. For gophers it’s a 22 and a Hornet. My 222 punches paper, 223&22-250s sit and look good! I’ve had two complaints while shooting, both in gopher fields. 1 using a 22lr and the other with the Hornet. Both were upset with shooting near there acreage. Pick your game and range go from there.
 
Funny someone mentioned the 204 as being possibly quieter. At one point I had 8 or 9 Model 700 Varmints from 204 to 308 that I shot regularly at a friends ranch, variety is the spice of life after all. I always thought the 204 was abnormally loud which was confirmed one day when he catully drove out to see what I was shooting because it seemed "louder than normal". My only thought was it must bee the tiny little hole letting all that gas out amplifying it?
 
Ive found the faster i drive a bullet the louder it gets no matter the caliber. My 16.5" barreled braked 223 is super loud but my other 223 is much quieter than a 22250. A 243 shooting lighter faster bullets seems louder than when shooting heavier slower bullets. The sound changes to a lower crack instead of a whip. Sounds like it adds throat. Personally the old 250 savage gets my vote for best all around varmint cartridge if larger varmints and predators are on the list. Fairly quiet. Comparable to a 223 in ballistics but can be used against even deer with great success if used with a fast twist
 
100% true, probably good for the OP to know that just because people are saying 223 is less noisy than 243...both require hearing protection. Calibers much less noisy than anything being discussed in this thread STILL require it. lol

As for muzzle brakes~it's part noise...but also the concussive force and debris making it miserable to be around. Hard to describe, but guaranteed to be very unpleasant. lol Hearing protection will protect your hearing, but still doesn't make it nice to be around. I've learned that the hard way, too many times. A couple of years back, shooting gophers...I was spotting while my nephew shot a few with a Tikka CTR in 308. Big, nasty muzzle brake too. lol I was beside, and about a foot back from where he was laying..and it literally blew my baseball cap off. No thanks!

Only gun I found that I hated being next to white a brake was a 50bmg. Everything else isn’t bad really.
 
Last summer a friend and I shot ground squirrels with the 223rem, and the 17hornet. The 17 hornet was noticeably quieter for both the shooter, and the observer.
 
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