Non Black powder cartridges 1874 Shiloh

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To get my feet wet can you inform me what non black powder cartridges would be suitable for the Shiloh 40/65 and for the 45/70? Does wholesale sports stock them?
 
You can get Remington 405gr. jacketed bullet loads, they are within the pressure levels recommended by the manufacturer. You can get the lighter bullet loads as well...none of these factory loads will be like the Black Powder/cast bullet loads of the 1800's. They will not perform at 400 or 500 meters on silhouette plates as the bullet is too short. There are no factory loads for the 40/65, and haven't been for 60 years or so.
 
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You can get Remington 405gr. jacketed bullet loads, they are within the pressure levels recommended by the manufacturer. You can get the lighter bullet loads as well...none of these factory loads will be like the Black Powder/cast bullet loads of the 1800's. They will not perform at 400 or 500 meters on silhouette plates as the bullet is too short. There are no factory loads for the 40/65, and haven't been for 60 years or so.
Thanks Ben. I will try them out before I get my reloading act in order with some of your bullets. Some of yours are sold at wholesale sports in Stoon. I will be putting in an order with yourself when I get my act together. Im putting in 80 hours a week until august.
 
There are factory loads for the 40-65, just not here.

PMC loads a 260 grain bullet, over black powder, and there is at least one other outfit (collins?).

Doesn't much matter, as they are not going to be at your local, in any case.

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Trev
 
If you are really itching to make the guns go bang it is possible to load without a press and dies etc. FOr the 45-70. Use 67 to 70 grains of black powder , by volume, lube the bullets by hand using a stick of lube sliding it up and down the side in order to fill the groves and thumb seat the lead into the case. Do not expect top level accuracy but one 45-70 I used to own would give very good results. Just don't do like I did once and dump a box of fifty loaded cases into the snow. A thumb seated bullet has no neck tension so they will fall out and the powder follows.
 
Murf is right on, the "no die", "no neck tension", works because the bullet is captured completely when in the rifle, it can't go back into the case more because the full charge of powder prevents it. The bullet can not go forward as it is touching the rifling, The only problem is if you have to unload a live round, the bullet may stay in the rifling and not the best idea for hunting.
 
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