non prohibited?
- Thread starter wood800
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- Location
- Canuckistan
Ummmm.... it's fun to shoot? Does it need anything else? And if so, shouldn't everyone be driving a black Taurus?
It's not prohibited by law, good taste perhaps but not by law.
It's good for many things. It's good for people who wish to indulge their Mad Max fantasies, look badass in the mirror, endanger their forward hand while shooting and post about how tough they are when they fire both triggers at the same time.
If you search the term "outlaw" in the shotgun forum you'll discover various opinions on these guns. If you make the same search on the EE you'll find that it's a gun often dumped by owners soon after they've bought one.
Not currently one listed for sale in month of October. I didn't go back further, but even if an ad is older than that and still up, doesn't mean it's still available. The reasons for owning one, are mostly cosmetic, admittedly. But it's a bald faced lie, to say that those who DO choose to own them are unhappy with them.
Lots of 12.5 inch grizzlies for sale though, a supposedly more practical, and supposedly better put together shotgun.
That would be a lie which is why I didn't say it. What I said was it's often a gun dumped by the owners shortly after they bought it.
Deliveries began in January/February less than a year ago. Here are just some of the listings since June. There were others. This doesn't include the guys who took down their posts after the gun sold.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383190
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376656
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=368568
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363261
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=357813
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356111
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373040
2 of them still available, one charging the same price as new, one charging more than new price. The rest seemed to sell rather easily. One of those 6 ads, though, is a guy who'll take an outlaw as a trade for his remmy marine magnum. Tells me it's just like any other gun, in that people buy it, try it, if they like they keep it, if not they sell it. In a rough economy, that's a pretty small percentage selling, for what even I, as an owner of one, would call a novelty firearm. We all know, very often the EE is viewed by many as a form of gun rental, buy a gun, use it for a while, then sell it at small or even no loss.
It's not a great gun, certainly it shouldn't be anyone's ONLY shotgun, it's just a fun blaster. Many a milkjug has felt it's wraith. We're still waiting on the flood of Outlaw kaboom threads that we were promised. The only complaints from owners that I've seen anyway, have been non-regulated sights, and the crap they come packed in.
It's not a great gun, certainly it shouldn't be anyone's ONLY shotgun, it's just a fun blaster. Many a milkjug has felt it's wraith. We're still waiting on the flood of Outlaw kaboom threads that we were promised. The only complaints from owners that I've seen anyway, have been non-regulated sights, and the crap they come packed in.
- Location
- St. Paul AB
I seen them a while ago, and thought it might be cool for Cowboy Action. I phoned a vendor, and he said they were getting out of them because the quality was so spotty they were losing profit on the returns for warranty. Also they have such a dirty spread pattern, you might not hit what you are looking at. That, and made in Chinese sweatshops. So my sense of ethics turned me around, as did my distaste for crappy guns. I looked a little further, and some CAS rules have a minimun barrel length of 18 inches for shotguns.
Not prohibited yet, BUT...
I'm sure the ever imaginative RCMP/CFC & CFOs will get around to the short barreled shotties like the DA Grizzlies & Outlaws.........it's just a matter of WHEN not IF.
They're (the anti-gun bureaucracy - RCMP/CFC & CFOs) like the common cold when it comes to harassment of gun owners......sometimes absent but never gone (I can go several years without getting a cold or the flu and then when I think all that is all behind me I get a doozy that will knock me off my feet & put me under the covers for a couple of days).
Uses:
1) Outlaw - portable (fast break apart & fast assembly) personal defense/survival gun for those who don't want to be bothered with the legal hassles of owning a handgun
2) Grizzly - dependable, fast swinging brush deer gun for "shotguns only" hunting areas........the best gun for this purpose that I've ever used
I've shot hundreds of rounds out of my DA Outlaw & Grizzly and have never had a malfunction or a jam......everything is still tight & solid in both guns.
In a perfect world nobody would care but then there are the realities of the Liberal created & Liberal infested anti gun activist bureaucracies (RCMP/CFC & CFOs) that like to use classifications to legally steal our guns.
Well.......... there are classifications.
Don't confuse there shouldn't be with what is.
outoftowner
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- Location
- Medicine Hat, AB
Heh, Im thinking of picking one of these up for a decoration in my room. Put it in one of those white lockable fire extinguisher boxes with the glass that says "break in case of emergency" and hang it by my door. I just have to figure out if that would make it legal enough, or if I would have to put a trigger lock on it in that situation.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
I agree that it is a little small for practical use and prolly patterns like #### but it is a perfect home/predator defence gun. I would carry one in a pack if I was hunting. Why not it is light and short. I also would rather just cut down a Cooey, or Iver Johnson to 18 1/2 inches as it is a little more practical, and you wont blow your hand off either. I really don't see myself paing 200 bucks for one of these when I can get a nice shape cooey for 100 bucks.
I've passed dozens of people (including one Conservation Officer) in the boat, on the trails & in the bush this summer with my DA Outlaw + a box of slugs & a box of safety flares packed inconspicuously away in my pack sack with no tattle tail barrel sticking out the top to give away the show & beg the question, "You got a gun in there, don't you??", and all the follow up bullshyt & hassle that would ensue.
The 18 1/2" snout on that hypothetical "cut down" Cooey or IJ doesn't bend or hide too easy in normal sized pack sacks . I've got 6" less barrel to conceal on my DA Outlaw.
All you need to cut down to size on the Outlaw is that humongous wooden stock being ever mindful that the fully assembled OAL must exceed 26" to stay in the non-restricted category.
I've fired that Outlaw until my wrists and shoulder said, "NO MORE!!" & haven't had a functionality related problem with it.
One guy passed me on the exit road when I was leaving a gravel pit-car wreck graveyard in Northern Ontario in August after popping off a few & after looking me over pretty good & seeing nothing but an inconspicuous green fishing pack sack asked, "I thought I heard a few shots being fired, how about you??". I replied, "Nope, didn't hear a thing. Maybe it was a truck backfiring out on the highway."
Half of the reason I bought mine is that it looked too fun to pass up. Second, is the fact that it can be taken down and reassembled fast and easy. This makes it a great arm to pack in weekend duffle bag. I personally am all over the province visiting family/working/fishing/hunting/slacking and a small defensive arm that is fast to get into action makes a lot of sense to me.
Another plus for it (and all break actions) is that it is easy to unloaded if you decide not to shoot. A pump of auto generally has to have the rounds cycled through the action.
Another plus for it (and all break actions) is that it is easy to unloaded if you decide not to shoot. A pump of auto generally has to have the rounds cycled through the action.
