Non-Restricted ACR Blues

blaxsun said:
So basically with the factory ACR the only issue is the craptastic 5-round magazines it ships with. Aside from the safety placement (not ideal), slightly heavier weight (still fine IMHO) and some minor scuffing with the charging handle, we arrive at basically... nothing. Everything else is related to pre-recall models and aftermarket barrels through one supplier.
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I agree, IMO the Non Res barrels need to be recalled and re-worked, additionally our dealers need to make sure the ACR's they've sold have had all the upgrades done to them.
 
#### Proenneke said:
Nope, it is not a deal at all. I'm not defending the Questar ACR's, just the ACR in general. I have not heard of any problems with the restricted ACR's in Canada, only the Questar ones. That being said there are a lot of XCR loving, ACR hating members on this board that are piping in under the guise of objectivity. Here is my theory on the matter:

- Questar brought in some early ACR'S prior to the recall. I'm hesitant to be hard on them for these imports, because if it was not for Questar, we would not have a lot of the hard to get rifles in Canada (i.e. Noveske, LMT, etc.). Also, how was Questar to know that the rifles would be recalled.

- Questar had a great idea to R&D and produce NR match grade barrels for the ACR, which is something no one else would do with the ACR in such a small market. Heck, there are very few people in the US making aftermarket barrels for the ACR.

- Questar took a great barrel from a great manufacture and rushed it to the market with out doing enough QC. I imagine that they were sitting on these guns for a while and when the FRT# was surprisingly issued, they rushed the guns out the door, to recoupe funds. After all, the first the ACR's had a very high MSRP.

I feel like if a little more time was spent on the guns going out the door, or if they hired a competent gunsmith to put them together, then none of these issues would have arisen. My ACR was fixed for no additional cost, but I did it myself. I am fairly happy with mine now. That being said, Questar needs to deal with these issues quickly and competently. Its not like there is a never ending list of people willing to drop 3K on a rifle, and those that do are often repeat customers. I know that I for one will be seriously considering another major purchase from them.
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I'm certainly not looking to turn this into a Questar bash. Questar (in the couple of times I've dealt with them) are good people and I'm glad they furnish the Canadian market with desirable products no one else is interested in importing.

The ACR under Bushmaster has been a disaster, IMHO, and I haven't even been following it that closely. There are 10,000 YouTube videos describing various problems with the platform.

The problem is that the ACR is not really a "new" rifle. It's been out for awhile now and you would like to think that they could have had some of these issues worked through by now.
 
blaxsun said:
So basically with the factory ACR the only issue is the craptastic 5-round magazines it ships with. Aside from the safety placement (not ideal), slightly heavier weight (still fine IMHO) and some minor scuffing with the charging handle, we arrive at basically... nothing. Everything else is related to pre-recall models and aftermarket barrels through one supplier.
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I could not agree more. Although, I'd like to add that in my opinion the barrels, themselves, appear to be quite good. At least from the accuracy I've been getting with mine. Its just the the timing on the M4 extension, which is screwed on, and or the gas block position. These are gun smithing issues, which appear to effect a few of the Questar ACR's.
 
It is really sad. I hope Questar and Gravel will fix your problem. What batch is your rile? Mine is 4999 and it works fine. And mine is a restricted model.
 
Nice to have a new option in the country. ####ty to hear QC wasn't worked out before you got your premium priced rifle buds.

Hope they make it right for you.
 
The early adopters have to take all the hard stuff it seems. Hope they get things sorted out.

I was really on the fence about putting my money on a Tavor, but looking at some of the issues with these other non-res black rifles: I think its the right choice. I still have nightmares about RCMP reclassification . . . but that's another thread entirely.
 
I guess I got lucky with my NR ACR. I've put a couple of hundred rounds through it with no FTF FTE etc. The accuracy has been comparable to my full length classic green so overall I am very pleased. Though after reading this thread about the shim problem I checked mine and sure enough there is a bit of wobble. Not sure how I got such good accuracy out of it. If #### would be willing to share how he fixed his or direct me to a thread with the info I would apreciate it. If it is just a loose fit that a shim will fix I can probably just machine it myself. Would be faster I think.
 
Well from the reviews I'm hearing down south it appears Bushmaster has got the rifle working right now and QC is now good. I don't know how they could have let them out the door in the first place the way they did.

Scarhart you should call Bushmaster and find out if your rifle was on the recall list, if it is get all the parts to fix it and get it working right.
 
Scarheart said:
I guess I got lucky with my NR ACR. I've put a couple of hundred rounds through it with no FTF FTE etc. The accuracy has been comparable to my full length classic green so overall I am very pleased. Though after reading this thread about the shim problem I checked mine and sure enough there is a bit of wobble. Not sure how I got such good accuracy out of it. If #### would be willing to share how he fixed his or direct me to a thread with the info I would apreciate it. If it is just a loose fit that a shim will fix I can probably just machine it myself. Would be faster I think.
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Mine shoots very well now, as well. Send me a PM and I'll send you my specs, or go to my review of my ACR.
 
I have a new response back from Questar. They have agreed to cover the shipping cost to Bushmaster, as well as replace my barrel if it is found to be defective. Hopefully everything works out and I can get this thing fixed ASAP.
 
308smk said:
For 3 grand i would've bought a swiss. Atleast then you'd have a real rifle.
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You mean like this one:

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Yes but the Swiss rifle is not plastic, and there for not friendly and cool, also Swiss mag are pricy and plastic.
 
Thanks for the heads up on these problems. I'm sure they'll get resolved in your favor but for $3000 you have every reason to complain as loudly as you feel fit. Good luck!
 
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