Non-restricted Kriss Vector - and related pistol caliber carbines!

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Hey Boys (and girls),

First off, I have to say that the RCMP moved fairly quickly on the re-classification of this firearm. I was expecting it to take a while based on the delays with the ACR, but that's another story. However, I was pleasantly surprised when the RCMP had issued the new certificate within three (3) weeks of the application.

Thanks to Ian at Herron Arms for doing the barrel job - which I understand was quite a lot of work. It looks and shoots great! Absolutely pleased with this gun. When Wolverine gets stock I am seriously thinking about getting a back-up! Especially at that estimated price! :)

Now, enough chit chat, off to the good stuff!

The next three (3) pictures are closeup shots of the Kriss with the 18.6" barrel. I had Ian thread it as he is sourcing out an AR flash hider for me (.450 Bushmaster). Also waiting for a thread protector to be sent out.

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This next picture is one of the family (pistol caliber carbines). As you can see, the family consists of (from top to bottom): TP 9 (9mm); Kriss Vector (.45 ACP); NR UMP Conversion with Navy lower (.45 ACP); NR PS-90 (5.7x28mm); R PS-90 (5.7x28mm); and, finally a Colt 634 (9mm). This familia is longing for a new brother that is 4.6 x 30mm. :)

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These next two (2) pictures provide a comparison of the Kriss and the UMP conversion (stock extended and folded).

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As reported previously by many others, this Kriss shoots extremely well and is easy to keep on target for follow up shots. Did I also say it takes ten (10) round Glock 21 mags? :) I wish I could get comparable groups when I shoot pistols but no such luck or skill for that matter!

To answer your questions as to how it compares with the UMP conversion. They are very comparable, the muzzle rise and recoil of the UMP conversion is limited and only slightly greater than that of the Kriss. They are both very accurate shooting out to 50 yards with a red dot optic. I didn't save any groups but quite satisfied with them. Only thing is that the mags are huge and can potentially weigh a tonne!

The UMP conversion and barrel job were performed by Ian as well and he sourced out a Navy lower, stock, and stock block for me.

I look forward to playing with this a lot more but finding range time is quite challenging right now.

Cheers!!
 
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Very nice collection. You may be interested in the Full auto shoot we have here over the border in Detroit. We have all your toys shown in select fire. Several Canadians from Ontario came over today and had a ball. today I shot a P90 , MP-5, Scar 16, and Scar 17-- in full auto!!!!! No, they are not mine. They are own by the store but you can demo them. The post 1986 models are law enforcement only and cannot be owned by us serfs. But we can sure shoot them in a safe, legal, and very fun environment.
 
Looks Fantastic! Ian doesn't disappoint when it comes to his meticulous work... Now if we can only get him to drop the Tea drinking habit and enjoy a nice cup of morning Joe instead, we'd be all set!

I've handled a KRISS, and although I prefer the original barrel length, the benefits of it being lengthened to a NR status far outweigh any minor cosmetic differences. I feel the same way about the PS90's...

Now I've gotta get myself down to Heron Arms... I have a "few little black projects" for him...

Congrats on the awesome gun!

Mike
 
It looks to me like it has been rebarreled to non-restricted.

So what im understanding is that if i were to buy a H&K UMP and have it rebarreled to 18.5", it would be NR?

And i take it that a regular UMP is restricted due to barrel length?

as for the OP, guns look great. but how front heavy is that Kriss?
 
How is the noise level on the Kriss with that long barrel? I have reloading dies for .45 acp but no gun chambered in it.

It would make an interesting close range pest control gun for around the farm. :D
 
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