Non-Restricted modern rifes
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Well, I believe you about the 180b-2 and the 180b and variants being different guns but I do not trust it to stay that way. Looking at all the other bull#### restricted and prohib rifles I just feel that one day my bush beating black rifle will end up a safe queen.
I am still entertaining the idea, if I could find one I MIGHT buy it, anyone got a price check on them?
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Firstly, my understanding is that the Ar180b and Ar180b-2 are basically the same rifle, but the b-2 version is the post AWB version created with a fixed muzzle break machined as part of the barrel. The Ar180b has an 18" barrel and is restricted due to barrel length, and the Ar180b-2 is non-restricted as the barrel and integral muzzle break is longer than 18.5". The original Ar180 is a prohibited firearm; however, the Ar180b is considered to be not a variant because the lower receiver (read the legal firearm) is of a different pattern. Basically, your concerns are unjustified. The reason the Armi-Jager AP-80 became prohibited is because it is identical to the Mitchell Arms AK-22, which is a named AK-47 variant.
The only way it will go prohib is by an OIC. They'll go for around $1800, and IMO for that price range, there are better options.
as for a non restricted im using a mini 30. 581 series, the sparta stock is a real winner for me and makes the mini 10x more appealing, lots of support for the minis and for a cheap gun to shoot its up there with the cz and sks but with a little more style IMO
Unfortunately not. Still uses Mini mags.
I own a CZ-858, it's pretty damn nice. However, it is clunky and does look cheap.
I also own a VZ-58 (restricted) which is about the same gun but with a shorter barrel. I have a lot of good things to say about that firearm, although it's really no where near the AR-15 lightness.
I also own a VZ-58 (restricted) which is about the same gun but with a shorter barrel. I have a lot of good things to say about that firearm, although it's really no where near the AR-15 lightness.
Well you got the xcr-m in 308 the rfb also in 308, the m14 and thats about it.
Unless you want a benelie r1 in 300 or 338 win mag?
any personal pref? like whats worth the money is more what im asking
well i havent decided yet, i want to see whats reliable as well as accurate, but i dont mind target shooting, andi do hunt so maybe a mix of the two. but more target then anything
Ok well if your on a low budget I would go with a m14, there reliable and cheep 400-500$ but they are an older style of firearm, less flexible ie. No rail or pistol grip. Cant mount vertical grip/laser/light, back up sight, need special mount for optic and tacticle after market stock are usualy mor expansive then the gun
Inever seem a xcr-m in personne but heard alot of great and some bad, the bad would be customer service and some need locktight cause they get loose, there accurate from what i heard, nice looking flexible (folding stock I think and rails) great for the range a bit lighter then the m14....
Inever seem a xcr-m in personne but heard alot of great and some bad, the bad would be customer service and some need locktight cause they get loose, there accurate from what i heard, nice looking flexible (folding stock I think and rails) great for the range a bit lighter then the m14....
Now I am biase, I got a rfb and its my by far favorite gun, its about 10 inch shorter then the 2 other mesuring a minuscle 27 inch non restricted with os 18.5 inch barrel, and since its so light it feel lighter to shoulder then my 22lr ruger 10/22. I never had a problem with it ,its really well made! Its great for fireing of hand, getting in and out of the truck, walking in the woods plus kel-tec got one of the best if not the best customer service. The draw back is harder to find mags and some mags are finicki and its a bit harder to shoot on bags at the range.
i know the MR-1 take AR mags... JP.[/IMG]
I've been drooling over the MR-1 for the past week, I dig it! I can't say it's very often I see such a ###y gun in such a...well, feminine influenced domicile
i thought the bull pup was restricted? i uno lol i just want something cheap reliable and i want to be able to up grade. i do come from a ruger sr 22 back ground so i have a hard on for new #### lol
i thought the bull pup was restricted? i uno lol i just want something cheap reliable and i want to be able to up grade. i do come from a ruger sr 22 back ground so i have a hard on for new s**t lol
Well een it comes to 308 you got the m14 battle rifle at 400-500$ the you jump to my choice the rfb a 2300-2400$ ( and yes its non restricted
!) And the xcr at 2700$ ishsounds good man, i just found a awesome stock for the mini 14 and both that and the gun are still cheaper then the other two. im a poor ass haha.
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