Noob asking some questions!
- Thread starter t_102
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This is going to get really ugly...fast.
I'd say no, legalities aside do not do this!
Antiques are much more of a handfull than they seem. While they are often reworked to physically chamber modern rounds; they are not up to the pressures of off the shelf ammunition.
That means they become a handgrenade of sorts when you load them up with off-the-shelf .45 ACP that was purchased in the local gun store.
LEO often have no idea about the laws associated with these old gun's either. Which means you are really increasing your chances of being incarcerated or getting shot.
Read lots of older posts related to this then step up to the Post plate so to speak.
It seems like such a cool thing but it involves lots of research & caution
I'd say no, legalities aside do not do this!
Antiques are much more of a handfull than they seem. While they are often reworked to physically chamber modern rounds; they are not up to the pressures of off the shelf ammunition.
That means they become a handgrenade of sorts when you load them up with off-the-shelf .45 ACP that was purchased in the local gun store.
LEO often have no idea about the laws associated with these old gun's either. Which means you are really increasing your chances of being incarcerated or getting shot.
Read lots of older posts related to this then step up to the Post plate so to speak.
It seems like such a cool thing but it involves lots of research & caution
Quick answer is no, apart from it being a bad idea to start with. Antiques must be stored more or less the same as modern guns. The only difference between a modern and an antique revolver is that you don't have to register it and you can shoot it where it is legal to shoot non restricted guns. Even then, shooting a handgun where the public can readily see you or even carrying it where you can be easily seen doing so by the public, is asking for problems and check outs by the police as well as probably temporarily loosing the gun.
I would recommend that you DONT have any sort of firearm around you....did you just watch mad maxx and am living in a dream world?? Do you see yourself as a modern day pirate? Maybe one to many beers,or fall out of a tree and hit your noggin on every branch on the way down??
Shooting Bastard
Regular
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- Coastal BC
Storage, at home, is more lax, but not during transport. Locked container, unloaded. No trigger lock required, yet I usually do anyways. Read the stickied info, and the RCMP website!
IBTL...not again, what's wrong with folks. If you want to conceal carry move to Vermont, problem solved {in more ways than one}.
antiqueguy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- windsor ontario
storage is not the same you can store them unloaded and thats all thats needed. antique handguns locked container is needed just like modern handguns antique long guns same as N/R unloaded is all thats needed
Carrying it in a vehicle is transporting. Transport of an antique handgun requires a locked translucent case. Carrying it loose in the glovebox would be illegal, and when an antique is used illegally it loses it's antique status and reverts back to a real gun in the eyes of the law.
So, you should expect concealed weapon, illegal transport, illegal use, and illegal possession charges depending on the anti-gun zeal of the prosecutors and police services involved.
You could probably plea bargain to drop most of the charges if you plead guilty to one or two. I expect you would not get more than a few months in remand or prison, and a lifetime firearms ban.
Or you could fight the charges. Expect $50,000 or more in costs and no guarantee. I'd actually doubt you could get out of it altogether but the "justice system" in Canada is a crap shoot and nobody can say with certainty. But you wouldn't have very good odds.
So it's probably not a good idea. BTW - please don't do this (or anything else stupid either) with an antique firearm. You''ll just screw it up for the rest of us and really pee off a lot of people.
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NorthCoastBigBore
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- Northwest BC (Rural) 103-I-##
x2^^
And even if someone decides that due to the different legal status of their antique they can store it "X" way or "y", the fact is most of your friendly Law Enforcement may not. It does not matter to them or your bank account that you may not be convicted: RCMP can still charge you (actually they lay out an information). It is not the RCMP who decides whether to actually charge you, they give that Information to the prosecutor who decides ultimately whether or not to charge you and see you through the system. The Charter is a shield not a sword and to raise it you'll have to be charged and be in the system, or at a minimum be remanded for a length of time where you can actually bring it into play (unlikely as they would likely hold you overnight and release on a promise to appear or something to that effect). You can spend a night in prison and even lose your property without your rights being infringed, depending on the facts.
You will not be able to raise the Charter to get you out of a trial or its associated expense. You could only use the Charter card to get you out of custody, should they be holding you unreasonably. Nor will the Charter protect your property. It is highly restricted in its application.
Forget a civil remedy against the RCMP. They are themselves shielded by legislation that limits their liability and makes it very difficult succeed in a law suit. At best you'd be looking at thousands of dollars and likely up to ten years in court - more if the Feds decide the case could set a precedent, in which case they'll bring it to the Supreme Court of Canada, if they don't think they are going to get where they want at the lower courts. Good luck with that. On the cost front and on the simple fact that many of those kind folks remain as appointments under our former Liberal government.
Discretion is the better part of valour
Use them with care and respect and "quietly", is the way to enjoy your antique...as the folks posting here do
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