Norc 1911 Commander Hitting low. Source for taller Rear sights?

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Yes, I know i could just aim higher, but that drives me nuts. I'd rather NOT modify my shooting technique for every different firearm i pick up.

Has anyone replace their sights on a Norinco? and with what/where did you get it? Dovetails vary so damn much, just looking to find what might already work.

I'd also accept a lower front, but it's already on top of the slide as it is, so no room to go lower.

Thanks.
 
6 o'clock hold?

If you like the gun you might want to get new sights all around but I believe the rear slot is standard colt so anything (brownells) for that slot will fit.
 
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If you don't care to use the factory dovetail you could try a Bomar style or Novak adjustable rear sight. I don't know if there is an adjustable rear sight that fits standard cold rear dovetails.
 
6 o'clock hold yes.

If it's the same as Colt, then easy peasy. I just wanted to avoid ordering something i can't reture that wont fit, i've just seen lots of variation on dovetails.

I may have trouble finding one tall enough, the factory rear is quite tall.
 
Maybe you should tell us which commander you have?
In my mind I'm seeing the stock GI type but by the sounds or your description of the taller rear sight you might have one of the newer styles?

You could also be pulling the shot a bit low? Does it shoot low for everyone that tries it?

Does it hit point of aim when you just put the dot right on the spot so to speak?
 
Alternatively you could purchase a lower front sight. I have the same problem with my Para-Ordnance 1911 with fixed sights, and dislike the idea of aiming at a different point to compensate for those few inches. Consequently I need to have a higher rear, or lower front sight installed or just get an adjustable rear sight. There is also the option of taking the slide to a machinist and have the front sight milled down a few hundredths of an inch then repaint the top of it.

I always lean toward adjustable rear sight now, and have turned down some excellent pistols for excellent prices because this issue irritates me so. First thing I did was verify it wasn't my shooting as hitting low is an obvious sign of flinch. Repeated testing, determined that while I have so afflicted myself in the past, it's not the issue now: I only mention that as flinching is not uncommon and it's the cheapest place to start working at having the pistol shoot where aimed.
 
I have seen norcs with 3 different heights of rear sight. If yours has the low (gov't model) or medium 3 dot sight, all you need is the high 3 dot that Norc use on some models.

A gunsmith who installs adjustable rear sights might have a handful of Norc take off rear sights. See if he has one higher than your current one.

Failing that, buy an adjustable LPA rear made for a Colt 1911.
 
This is the model: http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_3_73&products_id=400

Though the front sight shown is not the one on the gun. It has a "Tru-glo" style front (no filing there) The rear sight shown is the same as on the gun (which is already pretty tall (i need to get the calipers out) then see if i can find one taller.

All shots (standing, benched, etc) print about 4" low (dead center at least) in about a 4" group if i do my part.

Need to dig up some hotter ammo (but that won't be my regular practice stuff) and see what that does.
 
I have sent my 45, and now my 9mm off to Dlask arms for adjustable rear sights. Very nice.
Ivor
 
jparent said:
This is the model: http://www.theammosource.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_3_73&products_id=400

Though the front sight shown is not the one on the gun. It has a "Tru-glo" style front (no filing there) The rear sight shown is the same as on the gun (which is already pretty tall (i need to get the calipers out) then see if i can find one taller.

All shots (standing, benched, etc) print about 4" low (dead center at least) in about a 4" group if i do my part.

Need to dig up some hotter ammo (but that won't be my regular practice stuff) and see what that does.
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My experience has been that a heavier & therefore slower bullet will result in a higher POI.
It is caused by longer barrel time and the recoil has lifted the slide & barrel a little bit more
when the bullet exits the barrel.
 
If you can't find a fixed rear that is big enough it would not be a big job for a smith or any metal working hobbyist to make up something. Heck, if you have much of any metal working ability your self and own a set of files and a hacksaw you could carve out one of your own in not too much time. If you mess it up no harm, no foul. Toss the mistake out and try again. You're only working with a few cents worth of steel and your own time.

Another option is that adjustable sights tend to be taller than fixed sights. So putting on an adjustable rear might do the trick. And then you can adjust it over a given amount instead of trimming with a file.

Are you using this gun purely and only for classic bullseye shooting? Because if you will use it for anything other than one size of target at one distance in the future then your sights being adjusted for a 6 o'clock hold will result in shots being all over the place for elevation. The whole 6 o'clock hold relationship only works for a very specific geometry of distance to target and target size. Change either and your groups shift their center from where you want it to be.
 
Yes, there are different length links. But you're mistaken on the use of them. The link is selected to fit the barrel to the slide and frame. It's not used at all for aligning the barrel to the sights.
 
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