Norc 1911 vs Tokarev 9mm

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I'm in a position to make a quick buying decision, I'd consult the forum for information but figured I might get a faster answer here :)

My mom recently received her RPAL and although she's supposed to have been saving up for her first pistol, I'd like to get her started on something relatively cheap.

I know the TT33 is likely the cheapest handgun available and just saw that it's also available in 9mm.

I'm going to be providing ammo for her (I reload) so 9mm would be ideal but 45 is available as well.

Between the 9mm Tokarev or the Norc 1911 as a cheap but reliable introductory pistol, what's the best option?
 
I have both, and the Norc is a lot easier to shoot and get better groups with. The Tok is a much harder gun to learn on, and get on target.
I'd definitely recommend the Norc for starters.
 
She needs to handle both herself. The Tok has a more tapered grip vs the 1911 and may fit smaller hands better. The .45 rd is longer and the 1911 is a slightly heavier gun and also more complex to disassemble. Good call on the 9mm version though. The x25 may be a bit snappy for mom if she is new to shooting. The Tok isn't exactly a custom gun and may be hard for mom to #### and rack etc.
You're a good son but I think you need to explain the pros and cons of both guns and let mom decide herself. If she doesn't like it, she may not tell you and just not shoot the gun which defeats the whole purpose of getting her one in the first place.
 
Magellann said:
I have both, and the Norc is a lot easier to shoot and get better groups with. The Tok is a much harder gun to learn on, and get on target.
I'd definitely recommend the Norc for starters.
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No idea the quality of the Norc but my initial impression is that being a 1911 it might be easier to swap parts and upgrade in the long run as opposed to the Russian made?

Glock guy myself but I've always wanted a 1911 and buying mom a Norc might be a cheap way to scratch that itch lol
 
The Norc 1911 is a decent copy of a timeless design, and you can get a plethora of aftermarket parts for it. The Tok is a crude but effective bullet launcher, and parts can be a trick to find. The trigger is rough, and there is no safety. The sights make the rudimentary trigger look like a work of art...

IMHO the 1911 is FAR more shootable, and I own (and shoot) several versions of both.
 
I have both a Tok in 7.62x25 (not 9mm) a 1911 in 9mm and a 1911 in 45acp. I had my 10yr old daughter shooting the Tok so its not too snappy. My spouse shoots all three but loves the .45. She loves something with some snap to it. The tok has a different angle of the grip that's a little hard to get used to. The 1911's have all the parts and holster options available to you. 1911 would be the choice for me.
 
Still alive said:
She needs to handle both herself. The Tok has a more tapered grip vs the 1911 and may fit smaller hands better. The .45 rd is longer and the 1911 is a slightly heavier gun and also more complex to disassemble. Good call on the 9mm version though. The x25 may be a bit snappy for mom if she is new to shooting. The Tok isn't exactly a custom gun and may be hard for mom to #### and rack etc.
You're a good son but I think you need to explain the pros and cons of both guns and let mom decide herself. If she doesn't like it, she may not tell you and just not shoot the gun which defeats the whole purpose of getting her one in the first place.
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We've been shopping, she's used to my glocks and likes the g19 (gen3) for size. I'll be giving her mine in a few months when I save up enough cash for the gen 4 (my big hands need the back strap)

I guess a better question would be, as a gun that will be hers until then, which would you choose as a cheap but reliable pistol for the least amount of money with the least amount of issues?

No experience with either so I'm wondering the best way to spend a couple hundred bucks :)
 
I have a Tok in 7.62x25, a Tok in 9mm and a Norc 1911 in .45. The 9mm is probably the easiest to handle, but I also have a GSW .22LR conversion for the 1911. Just a suggestion, but have you considered this last option? She would have a .22LR to learn on and a .45ACP in the same gun when she becomes more familiar with shooting. It may be worth looking at, cheers.
 
I had a couple Tokarevs before I bought my first Norinco 1911. I sold the Tokarevs and ammo because I never shot them after I got the 1911, and between my wife and I, there's 5 1911's in the house, 3 of them are Norincos.
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BR427 said:
I have a Tok in 7.62x25, a Tok in 9mm and a Norc 1911 in .45. The 9mm is probably the easiest to handle, but I also have a GSW .22LR conversion for the 1911. Just a suggestion, but have you considered this last option? She would have a .22LR to learn on and a .45ACP in the same gun when she becomes more familiar with shooting. It may be worth looking at, cheers.
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Definitely one of the reasons I'm leaning 1911 is parts availability, upgrades, and conversion kits. Was a bit leery of the Norc quality but it seems quite a few fellow cgn'ers are enjoying them. Looks like momma's getting a .45 :)
 
Get a 9mm but not the Tok. .45 might be too much for her and probably will for consistent use. If youre willing to spend ~$350 on a 1911 why not spend that much on a 9mm (you'll still same on ammo in a long run!) and get a Norinco Sig copy? they're pretty good guns and quite accurate for what to pay for it. Much better than Tokarev in terms of ergonomics, trigger, sights, shootability.
 
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CowValley said:
1911 in 9mm. a few sponsors have them in stock.

http://frontierfirearms.ca/firearms/handguns/norinco-np-29-1911.html
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Best suggestion IMHO. Slide is easy to rack due to light 11 lb recoil spring. 9mm is Perfect for the recoil-shy or smaller stature shooter. Accurate and reliable with good mags. Trigger smooths and lightens after several hundred rounds. It could benefit from some dehorning though specially for women with thinner smoother skin. Men just grow callouses. To be honest, this is my fave 1911 caliber right now.
 
Really enjoying my Norc 1911 in 45 as it's plenty accurate and reliable with my hand loads. Have a few Norc pistols and am happy with all of them. Looking to add another to the line up in the form of a hicap 1911 in 45, recently released by Marstar.
 
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