Norc CQ-a grouping (PICS)

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So I keep on seeing lots of people ask how the Norc CQ-a looks on paper. I tested mine extensively with everything from 55g Fed FMJ, 69g Sierra Match, 55g Sierra Blitz, 55g Amax and finally 70g Berger VLD.
I have a some benchrest and Fclass style experience and consider myself a competative shooter. I still have a pile to learn but from my experience I will say that this rifle will shoot next to most bolt rifles with quality ammo. I have a pics from my last outing with 3 targets. I seemed to produce a flyer each time but I can blame that on the conditions and the longer trigger pull. But these 3 targets were one after another. No picking magic groups from my pile.These were shot with the 70g Bergers with 26.5g varget. I found that these worked like little miracle pills in this gun. I was using wind flags due to the intermittent wins this day but none the less was very impressed.

These groups were shot of a bench with a bipod and rear shooting bag. Some human error should be factored in but this should give people an idea of the accuracy.

The rings on these targets are spaced 1 inch apart.

Lots of holes on this page but I was playing with different loads plus sighting in on it. The 5 next to the black mark are the group. Last shot was outside the group and I pulled a bad one last shot as I was waiting for the condition to come back and when it did I pulled the trigger poorly trying to make the shot before the condition left again. Oh well, the 4 shots before that were good.

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Then 200 yards

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300 yards

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Anyways, I had mediocre accuracy with mediocre bullets and good accuracy with match bullets. Don't expect the white box Winchester or American Eagle stuff to come out this well. Worst I was getting with regular ammo was still within 1 1/2 Moa at 100. 300 yards was more like 3 MOA though. I really think this rifle has a lot of potential. I would think if the conditions were better this day I could have seen better groups, but yo hardly get that in the real world.

Anyways my thoughts with this rifle as far as accuracy is concerned is that it will shoot well if you feed it well. I feed mine those 55g Fed FMJs mostly as just wanna shoot it cheap. If I have a hankering to shoot little groups this rifle can do it too.
 
Here are mine at 50 with crappy 55gr AE and my 13yr old son shooting:


Most accurate rifle I have til I finish building my tikka .223
 
Nice shooting. That is really impressive for a cheap rifle. 26.5 grains of varget eh. That's more varget than I use with 69 gr SMK's.
 
Nice shooting. That is really impressive for a cheap rifle. 26.5 grains of varget eh. That's more varget than I use with 69 gr SMK's.

Yea, I was concerned but I really wanted to push those suckers hard and take advantage of the decent BC they have. I didn't see any pressure signs but that powder is sure packed in there.

I'll prolly take this rifle to the Selkirk match in June, so I may see you there.
 
How many guys buy a cheap rifle, assume it won't shoot worth a ####, so they feed it nothing but cheap ammo. The Norinco M14s is like that. Looks like your rifle that costs half the price of a target upper, can shoot just as well.
 
Nah, you guys have it all wrong - these are junk rifles, I know because I read it on the internet. The second cousin of the friend of my brother-in-law's sister's friends uncle had one blow up in his face when he was loading a dummy round. There, now we don't have to hear it from someone who's being serious. :rolleyes:

Nice shooting, even nicer when you look at how much money a lot of people spend to shoot the same size groups. ;)
 
well my bone stock norinco m4,well cant say totally stock its got all the nice magpul furniture and mags,will shoot 1 inch and less at 100 yards . I really look foward to get a nice match grade trigger in it and see what it does. my load is winchester case(all measured for volume) full length sized with winchester primers over a load of 21.9 grains of VIHT-N140 using the hornady 75 grain BTHP .it states in the hornady 7th edition that this bullet powder combination is used by the military as there competion round out to 600+ yards in a 1/9 twist barrel after trying it iam hooked the vita vouri powder is some of the cleanest burning powders ive seen just a light grey dust after firing almost 200 rounds and hornady sells the bullets in 600 round bulk packs for like 120 bucks if i can figure out how to get pics up here ill save some targets my next range day
 
They are definitely "minute of enemy"!!:D

My Colt won't shoot any better than those Norc's with the same ammo. My Colt also has a 20" bbl, not the 14.5" of the Norc.
 
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