Norc M - 14

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All new to me. I want to jump into the auto game this spring. Can the Norck M-14 be shot as is with reasonable results. This is going to be a longer term project and I want to have a gun that will shoot out of the box.

Is the Nork M16 a better buy for a newb?

Thanks for the help on this. CanuckZ is going to be a happy man as I swing to the dark side.

Take Care

Bob
 
I've got both the Norinco M14 and CQ311

I'd say the M14 is a better value (and I only paid $500 NIB for my CQ)

They (M14s) are decent shooters out of the box with a few issues cropping up in the quality control of them. Most notably; barrel indexing, loose op-rod guides, poor stocks, and sights that are difficult to adjust. Also, 7.62 NATO and .308 is more expensive than the .223/ 5.56 of the CQ311. Some M14s will require some amateur gun smithing so the "as is" kind of goes out the window. They are a bit of a "project" rifle.

There are no such reported issues with the CQ311 (AR) - they seem to work flawlessly right from the box and have excellent reliability. This could be considered a good quality for a new shooter.

Be advised; The CQ311 is restricted (no hunting, no shooting on unapproved ranges)

Now that I've put it in writting I would recomend the CQ311 for an "as is" target auto-loader straight from the box. The M14 is my recomendation if you don't mind a little "back-yard" gun smithing.

Jeff
 
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I bought a Norinco M14 last year after reading all the bits of pieces that everyone all over the net has posted. Mine was pretty accurate for her purpose, at 100 yrds all inside a 2 inch circle, and up to a maximum of 355 yrds.My shooting skills are not the greatest at this range and this is wear I draw the line for good iron sight shooting but still hitting paper. I've put about 500 rounds through her and I haven't had any problems. I didn't experience any accuracy deficiencies or the loose gas system. So far, so good. They are good guns for what they're worth.
 
NamSurvivor said:
I bought a Norinco M14 last year after reading all the bits of pieces that everyone all over the net has posted. Mine was pretty accurate for her purpose, at 100 yrds all inside a 2 inch circle, and up to a maximum of 355 yrds.My shooting skills are not the greatest at this range and this is wear I draw the line for good iron sight shooting but still hitting paper. I've put about 500 rounds through her and I haven't had any problems. I didn't experience any accuracy deficiencies or the loose gas system. So far, so good. They are good guns for what they're worth.

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I was quite happy with mine out of the box until i discoverd a cheap 3 point mount for it on Ebay .(i diddnt think half the price of the gun for a mount was worth it) then i was lucky enough to get a 2-10 X56 scope for 75 bucks. And then found i diddnt have a case big enough for it , so had to take off the scope mount to pack it around .i was really impressed when the scope was bang on when i put it back on, But with all that stuff on its really heavy . so i still shoot with the iron sights most of the time .
I dont think you can beat the M305 for the money
 
The M14 doesn't really need anything to be a good shooter out of the box. My rifle shot about 1.5" right out of the box. Pretty good if you ask me! With all the goodies out there for it, you will find yourself wanting to upgrade things that don't even need upgrading. Personally, the only thing that may need changing is the Chi-com stock to a USGI fiberglass one. It is a very easy swap, but again, not really necessary.
 
ianwd said:
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i diddnt think half the price of the gun for a mount was worth it

I do not understand why people say this all the time. You may only pay $500 for the rifle, but it is worth so much more. Would you feel better spending the money to upgrade a $2500 SA M1A? (which is not a whole lot better then the Norc to begin with)
 
The M14 can get very heavy, especially if you're gonna use it for long hikes while hunting. I was getting shoulder bites quite a bit so I bought a Specter Front Carry 3 point sling for it. It made it a lot better and does not have the sling noise signature anymore.
 
Mine was an honest 1.5 in. out of the box. Everything was tight as i was expecting at the price for some surprises but none found except for a high front sight, shot about a foot and a half low with sights down where they are supposed to be. Looking for a arms mount and we will try a scope next.
 
The best thing to do. Open box, clean crap out of gun, check gun over while cleaning, go to range with BIG box of bullets, shoot all the bullets. Then just try to wipe the stupid sh*t eating grin off your face for the next week while you wait for your new box of bullets to arrive. Hows that for out of the box.
Dave
 
Ummmm well not being the dimmest light bulb on the tree leads to believe you guys have answered my question and I thank you. I am going to get one, take my time figuring out the gun and go shoot the bejeez out of it. I reload so cost will be kept down.

Hate to mention this but I don't suppose any of you guys have shot lead boolits out of your gun?

Take Care

Bob
 
Ishootguns said:
The best thing to do. Open box, clean crap out of gun, check gun over while cleaning, go to range with BIG box of bullets, shoot all the bullets. Then just try to wipe the stupid sh*t eating grin off your face for the next week while you wait for your new box of bullets to arrive. Hows that for out of the box.
Dave

You forgot the part about burning the crappy chu wood stock and crappy sights as an offering to the gun gods.

You want Semiautomatocon to bestow his blessings upon you, do you not?

Seirously though... those two parts are the ones that HAVE to go. Find yourself a fiberglass or nice walnut/birch USGI stock and get some M14/M1 Garand rear sights on that thing.
 
I have two, One Socom'ed and the other orginal, put a hefty scope on one and an acog on the socom. They are a lot of fun and reasonable shooters. I upgraded things like the return rod, and bolt release latch, Navy front sight on the Socom is nice, but thats just stuff I like to do, not really necessary. And I like a heavy rifle, so the weight seems OK to me.

Steve
 
Canuck I Am, I figured that after shooting a BIG box of bullets the sights would have fallen off and the crappy chu stock would have burnt up. Then Canuck44 would have asked us what to do. We would then tell him to thank the great Semiautomatocon for making that happen then go get a fibreglass stock and better sights. Then go shoot another BIG box of bullets.
Dave
 
I am a die hard bolt gun guy but the M305 is so cool I may come over to the dark side yet. What really did it is all the cool socom 16 clones on this site.
I loved the Socom and I like to tinker and build projects.
 
Ishootguns said:
The best thing to do. Open box, clean crap out of gun, check gun over while cleaning, go to range with BIG box of bullets, shoot all the bullets. Then just try to wipe the stupid sh*t eating grin off your face for the next week while you wait for your new box of bullets to arrive. Hows that for out of the box.
Dave

Amen brother, Amen. :)
 
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