Norinco 1911 or Ruger 1911 ? for my first 1911

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I decided to get a 1911.... The only question is.... Is it worth it for the Ruger sr1911 or just get a Norinco 1911 5in?..... I love the Ruger (it looks amazing) but at double the price.... No IPSC for me, just the range....

I just need some convincing, lol:cool:

Anyone have both ? thx..
 
It's the same as asking whether to get a norc .22 or a ruger. The norc works, if you're lucky you might even get a good to pretty good shooter. The fit and finish will be lower for sure. The functionality if you're lucky will be almost or just as good.

Depends on how serious you are with the hobby.

Overall the Ruger will hold it's value better, probably require less work and fiddling out of the box, and in general give you better results.

When in doubt, buy both.
 
If you're interested in wrenching on guns, or learning how, the Norinco is perfect. The Ruger is more nicely finished, certainly.
 
The CanAm deal can't be beat for your first 45. I picked one up after months of thinking of it and I am glad I did. I only use it at the range, so having something that is not as well finished does not matter to me. Plus I get to have the fun of upgrading the gun as I want. The SR1911 is a complete gun, go tot he range and shoot all day. The Norinco is a shootable project where you can go shoot it, but still work on it yourself and I like doing that.

Plus with the CanAm deal 1000 rounds of 45, you can have lots of range time with the norc for way less than the price of the Ruger alone.
 
What about the SAM 1911's like Wolverine carries? Little nicer finish and maybe a few small upgrades for not much more than the Norc. The basic Remington R1911 is a little cheaper than the Ruger and a darn fine firearm judging from the one I handled.
Just tossing out some options. I'm hoping to add a 1911 to my cabinet sometime soon too. :)
 
I had the same choice to make and went Ruger for the 1 1911 that I ever plan to own. Can am deal made no sense for me since I reload, and I wanted a complete package, without having to #### with it.
 
Get the Ruger; It works out of the box. The Norc, not so much...

I explain myself:
When I got my Ruger SR1911, I took it out of the box, a quick field strip, lube and brought it to the range. End of story.

When I got my Canam deal Norc 1911... It required a full detail strip and a lot of scrubbing to remove the cosmoline or whatever sh*t that was on it. It came with broken grips (that are crap anyway, so add $$$ for some decent grips). The barrel bushing was so full of burr that it would not come out without a lot of force. The sights on it are really low and I hit the paper 8 inch low @ 5 yards (!!!). Installing new sights require a gunsmith or some fiddling with a file because the sights inserts are not standard (add some more $$$ for some decent sights and installation). It also came with an amazing 12lbs trigger (Add some more $$$ for some replacement springs) and/or trigger job. The mags were crap and caused nose dive (Add $$$ to get decent mags). BUT OMG the frame is made of magic chinese forged steel that's so strong you can carve president face in it! (If you can afford to wear out the cast Ruger frame you can afford a better gun imo :) ).

So yes the Norc was a fun project to learn the Platform but for your first gun, if you want something that will work out of the box and wont be a pain in the a**, do yourself a favor and get the Ruger SR1911!
 
kennymo said:
What about the SAM 1911's like Wolverine carries? Little nicer finish and maybe a few small upgrades for not much more than the Norc. The basic Remington R1911 is a little cheaper than the Ruger and a darn fine firearm judging from the one I handled.
Just tossing out some options. I'm hoping to add a 1911 to my cabinet sometime soon too. :)
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thanks...
 
Rivalen said:
Get the Ruger; It works out of the box. The Norc, not so much...

I explain myself:
When I got my Ruger SR1911, I took it out of the box, a quick field strip, lube and brought it to the range. End of story.

When I got my Canam deal Norc 1911... It required a full detail strip and a lot of scrubbing to remove the cosmoline or whatever sh*t that was on it. It came with broken grips (that are crap anyway, so add $$$ for some decent grips). The barrel bushing was so full of burr that it would not come out without a lot of force. The sights on it are really low and I hit the paper 8 inch low @ 5 yards (!!!). Installing new sights require a gunsmith or some fiddling with a file because the sights inserts are not standard (add some more $$$ for some decent sights and installation). It also came with an amazing 12lbs trigger (Add some more $$$ for some replacement springs) and/or trigger job. The mags were crap and caused nose dive (Add $$$ to get decent mags). BUT OMG the frame is made of magic chinese forged steel that's so strong you can carve president face in it! (If you can afford to wear out the cast Ruger frame you can afford a better gun imo :) ).

So yes the Norc was a fun project to learn the Platform but for your first gun, if you want something that will work out of the box and wont be a pain in the a**, do yourself a favor and get the Ruger SR1911!
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this is the info I was looking for!!! thank you.... I don't want to de bur the gun and crap like that.... lol

I dont have a dremel tool so I would have too get one just for the Norinco.... brings the price up..

I woud rather invest that money in to a Better 1911...

at least a SAM 1911..but the Finish on the Ruger just looks great

thank you
 
I have a few Nork 1911s, all the 45s were bought used and the 9mm was brand new from SFRC. Never had an issue with all these Nork 1911s that was not caused by faulty reloaded ammo or defective magazines. The brand new 9mm did have some rough edges that I did not bother to smooth out....and the pistol still functioned flawlessly.

I do have an SR1911 and it is a work of art compared to the Norincos. So IMHO, if you can afford the Ruger, get it. If not, get a Nork. Both will work reliably and shoot accurately enough, if fed proper ammo in good magazines.
 
Rivalen said:
Get the Ruger; It works out of the box. The Norc, not so much...

I explain myself:
When I got my Ruger SR1911, I took it out of the box, a quick field strip, lube and brought it to the range. End of story.

When I got my Canam deal Norc 1911... It required a full detail strip and a lot of scrubbing to remove the cosmoline or whatever sh*t that was on it. It came with broken grips (that are crap anyway, so add $$$ for some decent grips). The barrel bushing was so full of burr that it would not come out without a lot of force. The sights on it are really low and I hit the paper 8 inch low @ 5 yards (!!!). Installing new sights require a gunsmith or some fiddling with a file because the sights inserts are not standard (add some more $$$ for some decent sights and installation). It also came with an amazing 12lbs trigger (Add some more $$$ for some replacement springs) and/or trigger job. The mags were crap and caused nose dive (Add $$$ to get decent mags). BUT OMG the frame is made of magic chinese forged steel that's so strong you can carve president face in it! (If you can afford to wear out the cast Ruger frame you can afford a better gun imo :) ).

So yes the Norc was a fun project to learn the Platform but for your first gun, if you want something that will work out of the box and wont be a pain in the a**, do yourself a favor and get the Ruger SR1911!
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I agree with this. I own both and bought the Ruger first. There is no comparison between the two, it is true that the Norc can become a usable gun but out of the box it just isn't. A lot of forethought went into the Ruger and it shows.

I tried to shoot the Norc as it came (well I put new panels on as mine were cracked and sh1t anyhow) and I became so frustrated with the trigger I had to stop shooting it (not a situation anyone wants {a frustrated guy with a loaded .45 in his hand:)}).

After a complete disassembly, smooth the slide and frame, smooth the trigger channel and bow, fiddle fart with the extractor and re-blue I now have a Norc that I can shoot (sort of ;)) The trigger is too short for my hand and should be replaced. The grip safety is far too "finicky" for my liking, ect. What can I say, it's a work in progress. Don't get me wrong I like to fart around with this 1911, I'm just glad I have a Ruger SR1911 that I don't have to fart around with is all.

Murdoc has an SR1911 that is Nitron treated for like $750 which is a wicked excellent deal (if you like the black stainless look). I do recall some folks saying that the "loose" SR1911's could possibly be tightened up with this treatment. I'm not saying that this is the case with this particular gun, just sayin' I read that...somewhere.;)
 
thanks guys !!! I am looking at the Sam 1911 and SR1911 now.... the Norinco might (might) be a little too finicky....the extra $100 for the SAM might go along way...
 
I don't want to de bur the gun and crap like that.... lol

I dont have a dremel tool so I would have too get one just for the Norinco.... brings the price up..
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I have owned and have seen many many Norcs, but never any that required de-burring. Actually, I did see one that had all kinds of issues, but that was the idiot owner, his hand loads were junk, was a s**it shot and of course blamed it on the pistol. The instructor at the time promptly took the pistol, loaded his own ammunition and proceeded to carve the bull out at 15 yrds. "Nothing wrong with it" and gave it back. The look on the guys face was priceless.

the extra $100 for the SAM might go along way...
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Read some of the recent SAM threads. Make up your own mind.
 
I've got 2 Norinco 1911's and I can honestly say that they are no less of a gun than my Sig. In fact, if you want something that's really an original 1911, the Norinco is the bomb. They are series 70 style all the way through (no silly mag safeties or external extractors), though they aren't as smoothly finished as other guns, if it's not running, don't look at the gun, but what you did.
Ivor
 
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