Norinco 223 ammo failure * NO FLASH HOLE* (pics)

[Stephen1546]

This isn't a Norinco bashing thread. This is my first failure outside of the occasional hard-primer in close to 8000 rounds.

Was shooting the other day and got a failure-to-fire. Tried to extract the round but couldnt, so I waited for everything to cool down and then extracted it with a pair of pliers.

The rim had ripped off and the primer ignited, but it didnt ignite the powder. Is it just coincidence that the rim failed, as I dont know how the primer would have enough power to damage the case?

 

[cyclic]

The powder didn't ignite for whatever reason, then the extraction attempt destroyed the brass.

 

[Stephen1546]

The powder didn't ignite for whatever reason, then the extraction attempt destroyed the brass.

Just strange that both failures would happen at the same time. The primer also blew out and visibly charred the face of the brass.

 

[Odd Shot]

where's the flash hole at the base of the casing?

 

[Stephen1546]

where's the flash hole at the base of the casing?

Holly ####, I didnt even notice. There isnt one.

 

[Odd Shot]

damn...cheap Norinco!

 

[Raton57]

If it's supposed to be berdan primed there should be two holes not one.

 

[JDForBrkFst]

It's not supposed to be berdan primed.

That is an interesting failure. I have never seen that one before. Glad to see it caused no damage.

 

[Odd Shot]

did the exploding primer muck up the bolt at all?

 

[Ganderite]

No flash hole happens from time to time with most brands of ammo.

 

[mkwn]

Theres a guy at my range that showed me a round of ivi 5.56 surplus with no flash hole.

 

[Andy]

Looks like there's a flash hole, but it's obstructed. The OP needs to complete his homework and remove the bullet and powder and further examine the flash hole. If just debris, is it brass, and easily removed?

 

[Stephen1546]

Looks like there's a flash hole, but it's obstructed. The OP needs to complete his homework and remove the bullet and powder and further examine the flash hole. If just debris, is it brass, and easily removed?

I pulled the bullet at the range to see if the powder had burned at all. No burn and no flash hole looking from the inside (just looked after I noticed).

There was no damage to the bolt or any other component. What was left of the primer was sitting behind the bolt lugs.

 

[Gummo]

I've had this happen with Norinco ammo... Along with quite a few other "interesting" experiences. It's fun to shoot, just don't run it through anything you care about. And, wear your freakin' eye protection!

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