Norinco Glock?! Say it ain't so!

The fact that an American thinks he lives in a democracy, when he knows Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million and still didn't get the presidency, is saying something about themself, and everyone else in that country. The words 'something is horribly wrong' come to mind.

The world needs a revolution, and technology is the only thing keeping us inundated enough to not realize it.
 
Canuck44 said:
Good point but you could argue both countries have one political system run by two identical parties which really is not much different. Did your life change when Trudeau took over from Harper. There is another post on this thread worth reading.

Take Care

Bob
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That's a totally different argument than the one I put forth. Our system is not perfect and no political system will ever be perfect. However, that is not an excuse that taking away the freedom to choose your government is right.

What you are saying is since the Liberal and PC are so similar which makes them essentially the same, hence voting either does not make a difference. This is totally different from not able to express your will by means of voting. My point is that there is a right to disagree, transparency, and accountability in the system. Again no systems is perfect but not given to right to evolve does not make it right to take away that choice.
 
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Some of political opinions in this thread sound like those on the CNN. Nauseating. I love the United States, anyone that doesn't is simply wrong.

On topic though, I have purchased two norinco products. Never again. But I do believe in free markets and understand why people like them.
 
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VictoriousSecret said:
That's a totally different argument than the one I put forth. Our system is not perfect and no political system will ever be perfect. However, that is not an excuse that taking away the freedom to choose your government is right.

What you are saying is since the Liberal and PC are so similar which makes them essentially the same, hence voting either does not make a difference. This is totally different from not able to express your will by means of voting. My point is that there is a right to disagree, transparency, and accountability in the system. Again no systems is perfect but not given to right to evolve does not make it right to take away that choice.
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I said no such thing. That is your conclusion not mine, What I said is there is really not much practical difference between the two systems of government. You can agree or disagree. Less than 60% of us ever bother to vote so come to your own conclusion as to the value of the exercise in the governing process.

Take Care
Bob
 
cadgo said:
I've lived in both countries, there is literally nothing better about Canada except low population density.
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Neither country is that great any more, however I love the US even with all its faults and am very glad to have it as a great neighbor. Imagine having China or Russia as a neighbor...we wouldn't exist anymore. Canada used to be great too, but now it's Communist-Lite, or Socialist, take your pick as they are the same. The cheap Chinese goods thing is effectively an economic war we are all losing, at least the Americans are finally waking up to it with Trump.
 
Canuck44 said:
Well I have not gone bankrupt five times. I am not under investigation for colluding with a foreign power. I am not under investigation for money laundering nor are members of my family. I am not subject subject to thousands of lawsuits. I have not defrauded people out of thousands of dollars on a fake University scam. Oh and I don't have a reputation of being a serial liar. I guess that just makes me Joe average. Pity your President, who has a difficult time stringing two coherent sentences together can't claim the same thing. You know I am ok with that.

You know it would sound so much better if someone outside the US claimed your country was the greatest on Earth...but nobody does. anymore. Just Americans. Your country has more sovereign debt than the rest of the world combined. I guess that makes you number one in something that matters. Not much else I am afraid. You once were the leader of the free world. Now you put forth a motion in the Security Council of the UN and it gets voted down 14 -1 by your former allies. You might want to think on that my friend.

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Bob
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You missed over a dozen ###ual assault allegations, has tried to appoint multiple judges with zero trial experience which have been called unfit for the job by the American bar association, used his charitable organization to bribe politicians and settle personal lawsuits out of court, charged that same non profit for use of his golf courses to hold charity events, and couldn't sell steaks to Americans. Seriously what sort of businessman can't sell steaks and gambling to Americans!? Oh, there's also the fact that he wouldn't put his holdings into a blind trust...

Trump is only rich because his dad gave him a crap ton of money. And you know what, I bet he isn't worth anywhere near what he claims. If he was, why wouldn't he be willing to provide tax documents to prove it?

If he's so great, why is he slashing Medicaid to cut taxes on corporations, lowering taxes paid by corporate real estate brokers, and lower taxes for people making over $200 000 while doing nothing for the tax burden of the middle class (in fact he's raising it by 2027 in the current budget, over 50% of Americans will pay more taxes within 10 years while he gets multiple tax breaks) Oh, and all the tax breaks add billions to the deficit.

Trump is a joke, if he's draining the swamp, it's to build a private members only hotel on the tax players dime.
 
Canuck44 said:
I said no such thing. That is your conclusion not mine, What I said is there is really not much practical difference between the two systems of government. You can agree or disagree. Less than 60% of us ever bother to vote so come to your own conclusion as to the value of the exercise in the governing process.

Take Care
Bob
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I heard that one all the time, Western democracy runs pretty the same as dictatorships and people given the right to vote but most don't bother to.
 
I didn't realize there were so many comrades here. Perhaps a one way ticket to venezuela or china is in order for some of these people.
 
cadgo said:
I've lived in both countries, there is literally nothing better about Canada except low population density.
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So true, I would trade citizenship in a heartbeat. Canada has absolutely nothing to offer except a fallacy safe haven that is riding off the backs of America. Canada could be alot better but it seems pussy is very strong in the genetics here. We also have the holier than thou gene, good example is how we pride ourselves on taking care of the world while we produce some of the dirtiest oil available. Our standard of living is taxed out the yin yang. We have some of the most boring geography in the world, yet think it's so great.

I've been born and raised here by true Canadians, I've travelled the world. It does suck lol! I envy you so much. There is no Canadian pride for a reason (only smugness), we dont even understand how to celebrate as a culture. Don't listen to the Trump bashers, they have no right to say anything, after all, we elected Steven Harper for 8 years.

As for Norinco. Child labor isn't my a concern of mine. I don't mind Norcs. Especially when they copy over priced products like the 226.
 
America is great.
Norinco guns are also great.
Canada is a good country to live in considering some alternatives but our market is pathetic and socialism is ingrained a little too heavily.

Anything else is just hair splitting or semantics.
 
Liberty.357 said:
So true, I would trade citizenship in a heartbeat. Canada has absolutely nothing to offer except a fallacy safe haven that is riding off the backs of America. Canada could be alot better but it seems pussy is very strong in the genetics here. We also have the holier than thou gene, good example is how we pride ourselves on taking care of the world while we produce some of the dirtiest oil available. Our standard of living is taxed out the yin yang. We have some of the most boring geography in the world, yet think it's so great.

I've been born and raised here by true Canadians, I've travelled the world. It does suck lol! I envy you so much. There is no Canadian pride for a reason (only smugness), we dont even understand how to celebrate as a culture. Don't listen to the Trump bashers, they have no right to say anything, after all, we elected Steven Harper for 8 years.

As for Norinco. Child labor isn't my a concern of mine. I don't mind Norcs. Especially when they copy over priced products like the 226.
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How many companies has Harper bankrupted? How many women accuse him of ###ual assault? How many times did Harper settle a $25 million lawsuit related to a fake university designed to scam the poor?

While Harper had his downsides, he was a Saint compared to Donny boy.

Also, our geography rocks. We have some of the most pristine rainforests, some of the most breathtaking mountains, some of the most beautiful lakes, and some of the oldest rock formations on earth. The only way you can think our geography sucks is if you don't know enough about it.
 
r34skyline said:
I didn't realize there were so many comrades here. Perhaps a one way ticket to venezuela or china is in order for some of these people.
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How about you and I have a fist fight, and to the victor goes the spoils of living in what is arguable the greatest country in the world, and to the loser goes the 1 way ticket to a country that, thanks to the manipulative economics and 60 years of covert wars on socialism in Central and South America by the other America, is on the brink of total collapse, only because they're TRYING to stand up to the oil companies that, unbeknownst to the majority of the goons in the 'free' world, run and ruin the world we live in.

All joking aside (I'm not actually challenging you to a fist fight, that would be ridiculous. Although if we meet at a bar and enjoy some whiskey first before we start discussing the world we live in...) I hate politics. I love violence that has a point, simple outcome, and is fought by individuals with the right balance of pride and humility. Where'd all the nobility go? It got lawyered out, that's where.
Hence the hating of politics. The only trade where the best prerequisite is retiring as a lawyer:/

Go Norinco!!
 
Suther said:
How many companies has Harper bankrupted? How many women accuse him of ###ual assault? How many times did Harper settle a $25 million lawsuit related to a fake university designed to scam the poor?

While Harper had his downsides, he was a Saint compared to Donny boy.

Also, our geography rocks. We have some of the most pristine rainforests, some of the most breathtaking mountains, some of the most beautiful lakes, and some of the oldest rock formations on earth. The only way you can think our geography sucks is if you don't know enough about it.
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All of which is his personal life, nothing to do with politics. Also the "assaults" is more made up liberal media feminist foray of the day(I probably could have been considered a liberal before this crap). He said "pussy grab" lol, so hes a man sue him.

I forget what Harper did before politics, more less purposely forgot, do not want to remember him just happy he's gone. I'm sure it was as boring and uninteresting as he is.

All the Dons masculine features I don't hold against him, I celebrate. Yah it's true he's not a successful businessman, most politicians aren't successful anythings.. They just have a large following of idiots who are manipulated by the people behind the scenes.

As for our geography "rocking". I live in the only province that matters geography wise, BC. It's pretty meh.. only good thing is our low populace. Otherwise it's cold, and lacks diverse flora and fauna. Also I grew up on the prairies so I know how bland it is there and is out east..

Having been all around the most beautiful places in the world (southeast Asia), I well understand natural wonders. Closest we have is the west coast and Vancouver Island. Still pretty cold, boring and not very diverse, flora and fauna speaking.

The U.S.A has Washington state and Alaska (there's your rockin' Canada), also has the prairies and east.

However, America has the beautiful south. Florida and all the other southern states. It also has an incredible island (Hawaii), aswell as others like Puerto Rico. It also has much more interesting cities, Miami, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Atlanta ect ect..

I'm sorry but there is no contest.
 
Travis Bickle said:
America is great.
Norinco guns are also great.
Canada is a good country to live in considering some alternatives but our market is pathetic and socialism is ingrained a little too heavily.

Anything else is just hair splitting or semantics.
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X2.

I am posting this from my business quality Dell laptop. It says made in China on the back. I don't have a problem with this but there must be a lot of posters here with US or Canada or European made computers or smart devices.
 
I will reserve judgement on the Norinco Glock until I have one in my hands. My experience with Norcs is that they vary widely from piece to piece in terms of quality, but that very good firearms can be found among any of their models, especially considering the price.

I mean, it's not like Norc could make a worse trigger than a stock Glock.... ;-)
 
VictoriousSecret said:
I heard that one all the time, Western democracy runs pretty the same as dictatorships and people given the right to vote but most don't bother to.
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Which one was that? You think Trudeau, with a majority or Harper with his have to listen to anyone but themselves. The only safeguard we have in a Constitutional Monarchy is the will of the Cabinet. The PM and Cabinet have absolute legislative power. I have voted in every Municipal, Provincial and Federal Election since I turned 18. I have yet to see more than 60% turn out. Lots of elections have less than 50% eligible voters. You come up with a better explanation. Folks up here are ambivalent in the extreme or see no reason to vote. Who mentioned Western Democracies. You might do well to just read what I wrote and not what you think I wrote.

Take Care

Bob
 
climbingrocks said:
I will reserve judgement on the Norinco Glock until I have one in my hands. My experience with Norcs is that they vary widely from piece to piece in terms of quality, but that very good firearms can be found among any of their models, especially considering the price.

I mean, it's not like Norc could make a worse trigger than a stock Glock.... ;-)
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This!

Take Care

Bob
 
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