I was VERY tempted to pick up a Norc 1911 when I was at Wholesale sports today, it looked like the Government model I see on Marstars site and Armco's site. I was just browsing the EE and their is a nice looking Police model for sale. My question is whats the difference between the Government and Police models?
Norinco "government" VS "Police" Model 1911?
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The original Norinco and the one you are referring to as the "Government" was your basic "GI" sighted 1911. The "Police Model" has better sights, better blueing. The "Police Model" as we know it is the same gun as the one the Philippine Polcie carry ergo "THe Police Model" as Norinco won a contract to supply the pistols to that Department.
The latest Norincos inported appear to be finished off a lot nicer than the originals.
Take Care
Bob
The latest Norincos inported appear to be finished off a lot nicer than the originals.
Take Care
Bob
Of the three the extended slide release has to be the dumbest "feature" ever put on the 1911. I supppose it is no biggy as the guns sell cheap enough to allow for the purchase of a regular slide release.
Take Care
Bob
What difference does the full length guide rod make? I sort of like the front slide serrations, and I can replace the extended controls.
I just sold my "Police" model. I seem to prefer the Government type models.
I kept the double diamond hardwood grips & regular slide stop. Put it back to "as bought" condition for the sale, including the el-cheapo black rubber grips and the Norc extended slide stop. Since the pic below, I had also changed out the big clown mag button for a standard one so I put that back on, too.
NAA.
I kept the double diamond hardwood grips & regular slide stop. Put it back to "as bought" condition for the sale, including the el-cheapo black rubber grips and the Norc extended slide stop. Since the pic below, I had also changed out the big clown mag button for a standard one so I put that back on, too.
NAA.
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Yeah... the sights are decent until you fire 24-30 rounds and the front sight falls off.
Other than that I like my police model, But be for warned about the front sight, I'm not the only one who has had it fly off within 30 rounds. If you get a police model I'd recommend replacing the sights.
And the nasty black rubber grips...
Just wondering though? whats wrong with an extended slide release? I like having it extended.
Here's how the Gov't Norinco .45 comes...
Here it's with my Colt,...I changed the grips & the Main-spring-housing (MSH) to the flat type....
It all depends on your taste for features & looks....
Here it's with my Colt,...I changed the grips & the Main-spring-housing (MSH) to the flat type....
It all depends on your taste for features & looks....
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Well for starters it is illegal in IDPA. More importantly it serves no real purpose. I might be there because the Philippinos have small hands and use the slide stop to release the slide. That is the only reason I can think of.
Take Care
Bob
Yeah... the sights are decent until you fire 24-30 rounds and the front sight falls off.
Other than that I like my police model, But be for warned about the front sight, I'm not the only one who has had it fly off within 30 rounds. If you get a police model I'd recommend replacing the sights.
And the nasty black rubber grips...
Just wondering though? whats wrong with an extended slide release? I like having it extended.
The front sight on my buddy's Police model Norinco flew off after the first box so about 50 plus rounds. Would be nice if anyone knows the dovetail size and if a good quality aftermarket sight fits that cut.
As for the extended slide release, very ugly, may cause premature slide lock if you bump it up accidentally cause it is so much bigger, and can cause problems lack the slide back on the last round.
When I had my Norinco NP 29, it would rarely lock back until I switched to a Wilson Combat slide release and all the problems went away. Also the Wilson looks way better than the Norinco part.
Here it's with my Colt,...I changed the grips & the Main-spring-housing (MSH) to the flat type....
It all depends on your taste for features & looks....
It's amazing how ditching the plain black rubber grips on the Norcs and switching to some nice double diamond hardwoods improves the look 100%. The one's I took off the new enhanced model above will be going on the NP29 I scored out of the EE last week. And likely then a couple other parts to "make it my own"....
NAA.
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The value of the extended guide rod is a subject that's almost always the cause of disagreement among 1911 shooters. The full length guide rod is supposed to make the pistol cycle more smoothly and thereby increase accuracy. The standard guide rod is supposed to be more failure resistant and allows more options in one hand operation. Full length guide rods are normally seen on 'range' guns while standard guide rods tend to be seen on guns that get used for self preservation.
There, I did it without imposing any self centred bias.
Well I understand about the IDPA regulations fair enough, good answer.
But other peoples can have small hands too, such as myself.....6 ft tall of English/Irish decent.
besides being a shooter with small hands I know that having small hands does NOT mean you're always going for the slide stop to release the slide. In fact I usually don't use the slide stop while loading/reloading any handgun.
For me the extended slide release makes it a lot easier for me to lock the slide while unloading the gun and I don't see a disadvantage to being able to hit the release without changing my grip profile on the gun.
So I understand about the IDPA restrictions, but ...Filipinos have small hands therefore they use the slide stop to release the slide. That doesn't make sense to me what-so-ever.
Anyway I don't want to start an off topic argument in this thread, so I'm going to make another thread and try and get some more voices in on this.
I only mentioned what I did because the gun won a bid to supply the Philippine Army with pistols. Prior toi the Police Model Norinco used teh standard slide stop release.
Take Care
Bob
I dislike FLGRs in 1911s because they make for more complicated field stripping and compromise reliability. 1911s set up for "serious" use generally don't have them. That said, I have no objection to FLGRs in those pistols which were originally designed to incorporate them.
I dislike front serrations because they are harder on holsters, spoil the lines of the gun, and are unnecessary. The correct way to do a "press check" is on of the two techniques below:
1. Hook the thumb of your non-dominant hand around the tang of the grip and pinch the slide slightly back so as to expose the chamber to check either visually or with your pinky finger.
2. Grasp the rear serrations to slightly retract the slide using either the slingshot or overhand grip.
Either method does not put your fingers needlessly close to the muzzle of the gun, as does using the forward serrations.
As for slide stops, the extended one is unnecessary even if you use it to drop the slide. A right-handed shooter can use his left thumb or left-handed shooter can use his trigger finger to drop the slide with greater ease than by using the right thumb.
It's amazing how ditching the plain black rubber grips on the Norcs and switching to some nice double diamond hardwoods improves the look 100%. The one's I took off the new enhanced model above will be going on the NP29 I scored out of the EE last week. And likely then a couple other parts to "make it my own"....
Nice score.
