Norinco JW20 take down .22lr

blwebster said:
Forget buying junk. Get a good quality one that in the long run will save you money and a lot of frustration.
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yes i'm reviving an older thread, the story continues and the advice above might be the best yet!!!
the quick story is that the "supplier" was willing to take a look at the stock, so i sent it to them at my expense of course. the gun sat there for over 5 weeks with no updates given. i called over the next couple weeks and was told "repairs take time". now remember i had put less than 20 rounds through this thing before the initial stock crack. finally after almost 8 weeks without it, i asked for the manager, he said he would look into it and told me they would replace the stock....great news. the gun was sent back to me via courier and i put it back in the safe until my next trip to the range.
i take it to the range, load up 10 rounds, the thing won't feed at all. i fumble with it to get one in the chamber, pull the trigger and "click", that's it, just "click". so i empty out the rounds, have a look at the feedramp etc and don't see any issue. load it up again with 5 rounds and the exact same thing, won't feed, fumble to get one in the chamber and then "click".
now the round is jammed into it and i can't open the chamber to get them out. finally had to pull the magazine rod out and empty them through the buttstock. put the lock back on the trigger and packed it away. once i got home i took a closer look and saw that the trigger group had been "forced" into the "new" stock that was put on it. the stock finish had been all pushed up from the forcing in of the trigger. the group does not lock into place and is totally sloppy. i am thinking this is why it won't fire as the slop in the trigger group affects the distance of the firing pin.

so i will be contacting them again tomorrow (monday) and i'm sure i will have nothing but hassles. so far i've kept the dealer nameless on here, all the reviews from other CGN'ers seem positive. and YES i realize it's a cheap gun, but i mean if that's the quality of "service" that is acceptable, then i'm in the wrong business and work way too hard.

just my 2 cents.

cheers
 
blwebster said:
Forget buying junk. Get a good quality one that in the long run will save you money and a lot of frustration.
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100% correct! What do you expect for $200 when the original goes for $600?
I bought one of these guns from Lever Arms and had feeding and reliability issues until I replaced the springs and had to re-thread the magazine tube. Lever refused to help.
I sold it and I think the second owner still has the odd misfeed.
The low cost was not worth the on-going hassels.
Geoff
 
tungngroove2000 said:
Got home, and when i went to put it back together for storage in the safe, the stock CRACKED in 2 places, right where it meets the receiver and behind the trigger assembly. Now i have taken my Browning apart a hundred times and put it back together so this is NOT a new thing for me. I didnt' do anything differently or apply any additional pressure when assembling.
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I owned a JW20 before, and I somehow broke off a small piece of wood at the front end of the stock, where the barrel meets to receiver. I don't remember if I did it when locking the barrel in place or unlocking it. But yeah, it should come with a warning sticker: don't twist this spot too hard or the wood will chip off.
 
not a JW 20 but a JW 15 in 22 magnum[bolt action -cope of a brno]In terms of fit and finish-no comparison,I wanted a 22 magnum but I didn't want to spend a lot-so I got what I paid for.Its got a nice trigger ,it feeds fine and its accurate.I cut down the clunky wood stock,trimed it up,put a schnable nose on it and refinished it.Still not a BRNO, but a great improvement.I paid $110 from SIR years ago and put a Bushnell 4x .22 scope on it,and it does what I want it too.I wouldn't call it ''junk'',but rather strictly utiltarian.

I've looked at the JW20,read the reviews but decided if I want a Norinco-probably best to stick with bolt actions,the camo synthetic stock thumbhole JW 15 might be worth looking at for a truck gun
 
My JW20 has been quite reliable. It feeds all brands of ammo I've put through it without a hiccup. Machining is pretty rough though (parts and the stock) so you do get what you pay for but for $180 I'm happy. That said, I'll probably buy the Browning at some point just to have one I can be proud to own.
 
I received one a few days ago - keep in mind that you need to completely strip the rifle to clean the cosmoline. Including trigger mechanism. A bit of extra extra fine wet/dry sandpaper say 1200 grit -on sides of bolt & inside receiver would help as well.

My only hassle has been adjusting the barrel fit - do not lose the tiny little springs & plungers that fit under the barrel locking slide - One place replacement Browning parts might improve function. BUT, for the price, as long as you are willing to spend a bit of time, nice to actually understand the action, a neat little plinker. With winter in full swing I do not expect to do any accuracy testing for a few months. Probably will re-finish or simply paint over the exiting stain/varnish - obviously not walnut under there, so my experience tells me there is no way to strip & stain and refinish to get a better appearance. Use it for what it is, not pretty, but a compact and very interesting little plinker!

Phil in Waterloo
 
I own one. It doesn't get too much use, but that's primarily because I find loading the magazine to be a bit of a pain compared to my other 22s. Reliability so far has been very good. Minimal failures until about 800 rounds in, at that point it was just dirty. My only major gripe with it is that I can't consider it to be a takedown .22. It technically works, but in my case the button is so stiff that it requires a hammer/punch/something stronger than my finger to take it down.

I traded off with a browning owner at the range one day for a few rounds. He was reasonably impressed with the performance considering the price. On my end, the browning was unquestionably nicer, but out of my price range for a .22.
 
I have one as well (recent acquisition, bought new). Takedown button was stiff, indeed. I opted to buy Browning parts for it (cheap, cheap, cheap!), which improved the takedown function immensely (it's now FUN to take down!). Since I was ordering the Browning takedown lever anyway, I also ordered the plunger, spring, and a main bolt spring (I managed to kink mine during reassembly - that spring is looooong, and kinks VERY easily, so BE CAREFUL!), and the whole works only set me back around $15-20, including delivery. BTW, ALL the Browning parts went into the JW-20 without fitting of any kind, and worked perfectly. I still haven't installed the bolt spring, as I straightened the original as best I could, and it works flawlessly. Now I have a spare!

Function-wise, I've yet to find ammo it doesn't like. It seems to fire the crap that even my 10/22 pukes up, without complaint. So far, after a couple of hundred rounds of mix-'n-match ammo, precisely zero FTF, FTE, etc.

Accuracy was, frankly, amazing, for what the gun is & represents. At 50 yds. (benched, gun sitting on a hunk of rolled-up 1970's purple shag carpet), it was easily well under 1", just banging away with it. Slower, more careful shots tightened it up a LOT. I even tried to induce malfunctions & accuracy issues by taking it down a few times during test firing, but it just carried on without complaint. Of course, it'll never be a benchrest competition gun, but its intent is as a take-down, field-use plinking gun and as such, IMHO, it excels. I bought a black nylon tactical soft-sided case for it (only about 24" long, IIRC), and it now goes with me camping, in the RV, boating, etc.

If you shop around, you can buy these really cheap. I got mine for $169, brand new (regular, not sale, price), from a Canadian distributor. My wife likes it, too!
 
I've had one for about a year and the only ammo that's FTE has been CCI quiets but only if the guns cold (not been shot), after heating it up with 10-20 rounds of standard ammo it cycles the quiets. Other than that just needing a key or a coin to push the takedown button, its a good little gun.
 
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