Norinco m14 vs. Springfield m14

elvis3006 said:
it just sounds like people who cant afford an M1A are justifying there chinese POS lol!:eek:
Click to expand...

Ahhh, another comment from the peanut gallery. :rolleyes:

You can take what Lazerus is saying to the bank. He knows
his stuff and he isn't he only experienced person who has
personally endorsed the Norinco product.

Please share your experience with us all. Strong opinions
should be supported by a strong argument based on reality, not
reading material.
 
elvis3006 said:
it just sounds like people who cant afford an M1A are justifying there chinese POS lol!:eek:
Click to expand...

Have you owned one, probably not??? I can tell from your ignorant statement. Like I stated before, I will put mine up against a Springfield any day of the week.

Here's mine at 200 Meters. Not bad for a POS, eh??? Only $20 of upgrades and tuned up.

200MFederalHPBTMatchGrade-1.jpg
 
elvis3006 said:
it just sounds like people who cant afford an M1A are justifying there chinese POS lol!:eek:
Click to expand...

I wouldnt say "can't afford", because I had the $ either way. However to blow 2 g on something that can't out perform its $399.00 counterpart is a joke.
A fool and his money is soon parted !!!;)
 
tudes like that and you'll be gone soon- i happen to have BOTH the real deal m14 ( not an m1a, but a 12(3) - actually more than 1) - figure out what those go for retail- a h&r, a springfield and a trw-thanks to the isrealis- AND THE NORC SHOOTS WITH THEM- custom hand loads, and the norc has never been "tweeked" and it's an old one with a blue instead of a parc- the real key is LOAD DEVELOPMENT- anybody that diss's the norc is just plain elitest -
 
elvis3006 said:
it just sounds like people who cant afford an M1A are justifying there chinese POS lol!:eek:
Click to expand...

LOL!

The price for a LNIB Chinese M14 here in the states averages just under $1K.
New M1As sell for about $1.3K and SAI has been out of USGI parts for some time.
The better all-around deal down here is the Chinese M14.
 
elvis3006 said:
Twits Lol!
Click to expand...

And we have our latest jackass. Welcome. How's your dad's .30-06 treating you? I know, one day when your balls drop you hope to have one of your own, it's ok. :wave:

On another note, I'm proud to announce my very own Norc is on it's way. I hope to have it next week, so don't be too pi$$ed with all the questions I'm going to table. This is all new to me! :dancingbanana:
 
Gents,

Settle down with the personal attacks and name calling. This is the ford vs chevy argument. Don't get emotional or I will lock it.

Last warning.
 
crap i wan't to apoligize also. i just thought i would give my opinion. i've both and i can't see a very big differance. besides if cheap norinco firearms get people who can't afford springfields or colts,ect into our sport what the hay.:)
 
To me it's simple. The m14 is indeed a very fine firearm but it is not a firearms that I realy enjoy or particulary like. But I wanted a m14 in my vault (hey it's like it's father ( the garand) one of those just need one guns) I've had it for 3 years now and honestly I have yet to clean the packing grease out of it. For that reason I bought a norinco as I can't afford a 2k safe queen. If I wanted a shooter that I would be using frequently a SA would replace it in no time but for now the 305 stays.

I also enjoy taking guns apart and changing them around just for the fun of it so I don't feel to bad if I #### up a 400$ gun instead of a 2k one....
 
Last edited:
chopper 1 said:
WHY spend all that cash on a Springfield when you can get a Norc
Click to expand...

Because its a free country and I fell inlove with a M1A (specifically a walnut stocked NM with a SAI "Government" scope but went with a Loaded personally). But when presented with a option of Chinese or Canadian/American I always go with the latter choice. Ordered it off the only retailer at the sportsman show that spent time to talk, give a quote on the back of their card and let a then 14 year old teenage boy handle a M1A (under supervision of course). ;)

elvis3006 said:
it just sounds like people who cant afford an M1A are justifying there chinese POS lol!:eek:
Click to expand...

I rather have people buy a 400$ rifle if that's all they can budget then not get a rifle at all. We are all gun owners and as such we should respect each other.

Personally I will admit a M14S IS in my future. Will be a great starter rifle to graduate people I take shooting after they get used to my Cooey. :cool:

Dimitri
 
????

Dimitri said:
Because its a free country and I fell inlove with a M1A (specifically a walnut stocked NM with a SAI "Government" scope but went with a Loaded personally). But when presented with a option of Chinese or Canadian/American I always go with the latter choice. Ordered it off the only retailer at the sportsman show that spent time to talk, give a quote on the back of their card and let a then 14 year old teenage boy handle a M1A (under supervision of course). ;)



I rather have people buy a 400$ rifle if that's all they can budget then not get a rifle at all. We are all gun owners and as such we should respect each other.

Personally I will admit a M14S IS in my future. Will be a great starter rifle to graduate people I take shooting after they get used to my Cooey. :cool:

Dimitri
Click to expand...

There is absolutleeee nada wrong with spending to much on a rifle - its just nicer to spend the same amount and get several. In the past I have had the hots for something totally overpriced that I just had to have and indulged myself. Wish I could do it more often !
 
dmitri- forging is work hardening. you cannot work harden a steel by casting it. The forging creates "flow lines" in the grain structure, adding strength and hardness, due to the residual stresses in the material.

So you ground some hardened steel and it became soft? I will take a good piece of quenched 5160, and take it to a grinder. heat= removes hardening. It might not be so bad on O1, which air hardens, but generally, don't put too much heat into heat treated steels. They tend to soften.
 
Throttle_monkey1 said:
dmitri- forging is work hardening. you cannot work harden a steel by casting it. The forging creates "flow lines" in the grain structure, adding strength and hardness, due to the residual stresses in the material.

So you ground some hardened steel and it became soft? I will take a good piece of quenched 5160, and take it to a grinder. heat= removes hardening. It might not be so bad on O1, which air hardens, but generally, don't put too much heat into heat treated steels. They tend to soften.
Click to expand...

2 BIG issues with what your saying. Yes there is residual stresses in steel however, there is NO residual stresses that forging may or may not remove in a cast part. Cold Rolled material from a mill has these stresses due to the finishing process of the raw billet. A cast part was never finished in the same way so it does not have these stresses to begin with.

Work hardening however good with lower grades of steel, once you heat treat 8620 or similar high alloyed steels, the difference is unmeasurable as the HT is much more of a factor then any prior work hardening.

I am referring to surface grinding the hard outer shell of a "tool steel" (no matter what the so called material was used) of a item made in China only to find it was case hardened not through hardened meaning that so called "tool steel" part is nothing more then low carbon steel (probably something cheap like 1018 or similar) they had kicking around and case hardened it. And by the way O1 is oil hardening not air hardening.

Dimitri
 
af_newbie said:
M1A guns are of a more consistent quality.
.308 Win headspace. Buy NM version.

Norincos M14 are "project" guns.
7.62 headspace, most of them are unsafe to fire .308Win as they swallow
FIELD reject gauge. Some are better than others.
Click to expand...


That's not really accurate either. The norcs will do fine with factory .308, the concerns come with reloaded cases. Hungry has posted in here how it should be done (ie: neck sized only)

I doubt that even with all of these rifles around you'll find any (except maybe from way back) that had any ka-booms with factory .308.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom