The canam version has the factory flash eliminator and it is held on by lugs cut into the barrel and a castle nut...the shorty that Dlask makes have the barrel cut and have threaded muzzles with screw on brakes or flash eliminators
Norinco m14... worth it or not?
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The two are the same, just marketting reasons for the difference.
As for 18.5 vs standard 22"
The rifle handles and balances very nicely at 18.5". Velocity loss is neglegible.
My advise to anyone new to the chinese M14s/M305b , if you like your rifles to be the type you buy, clean, shoot and store, with no mucking about.... These rifles are not for you.
If you want a rifle that you can get to know intimately through tuning and regular maintenance, these rifles are a lot of fun. Also gives you a great excuse to hang out here, where you will always find folks to help and offer experiences/advice.
They are a fun rifle to own, especially if you like to tinker by nature. And you just can't beat the price tag.
As for 18.5 vs standard 22"
The rifle handles and balances very nicely at 18.5". Velocity loss is neglegible.
My advise to anyone new to the chinese M14s/M305b , if you like your rifles to be the type you buy, clean, shoot and store, with no mucking about.... These rifles are not for you.
If you want a rifle that you can get to know intimately through tuning and regular maintenance, these rifles are a lot of fun. Also gives you a great excuse to hang out here, where you will always find folks to help and offer experiences/advice.
They are a fun rifle to own, especially if you like to tinker by nature. And you just can't beat the price tag.
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I bought a 2009 M14s about a year ago.
NEA oprod
NEA mag release
Devcon/jb weld, under the nose cap to tighten up the stock
2 weekends ago I was smacking my 12" gong at 400 meters consistently with the factory irons and $23 a box federal hunting ammo and 4/5 with MFS $14 a box FMJ...
No... There not worth $450... Should be a bit more then that.
NEA oprod
NEA mag release
Devcon/jb weld, under the nose cap to tighten up the stock
2 weekends ago I was smacking my 12" gong at 400 meters consistently with the factory irons and $23 a box federal hunting ammo and 4/5 with MFS $14 a box FMJ...
No... There not worth $450... Should be a bit more then that.
Rocket Surgery
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I only bought one because I have no friends and needed a reason to post on the internet. It was also cheap but I bought it when my german girlfriend's mother was in town and she didn't know I owned guns, so when I whipped out a massive battle rifle she had to sit me down and tell me about growing up as a kid during WW2
Did you know the Russians used to go into any house they wanted to after the war and loot all the food? She even told me that one time as they were picking the apple tree clean they decided to take a parting shot at the window before peacing out. Damn commies!
Did you know the Russians used to go into any house they wanted to after the war and loot all the food? She even told me that one time as they were picking the apple tree clean they decided to take a parting shot at the window before peacing out. Damn commies!
ok just a few more noob questions, bear with me. If i did want to replace some parts/tinker to make it a better rifle, what should i do and how much would it cost roughly? also M14 doctor what are these clinics of yours and how do I join?
Rocket Surgery
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In my honest opinion, and I think Hungry will back me up, you're best off doing the mods yourself and then deciding whether to dump money into it. M14doc and Hungry put on these seminars that allow you to see the DIY mods, which are actually pretty easy to do.
You'll be into your gun for about $425 and then another $50.00 for a clinic fee, all you need to bring really is some tools and loctite.
On my gun I had to swap out the flash hider and stock, simply because they were both dog####. My USGI stock and bipod cost me $200.00 and the flash hider cost $50.00. Be careful ordering from the USA, I placed my online purchase December 13th and it still hasn't arrived, which means I probably won't get it. My scope mount cost $75.00 and I paid a gunsmith $60.00 to re-tap my side mount screw and fashion me a stronger bolt, that sucker is on super tight now. I paid $35.00 for a match grade op rod spring guide, and I plan on getting a better spring as soon as I can find one.
This may sound like voodoo, but my gun shot better after I cleaned the barrel with WIPEOUT. I don't know why, but it just did, and I'm not going to question it.
Before I did the modifications, my gun shot 1.5 inches with reloads and 2 inches with factory ammo. I've only shot factory federal ammunition after the modifications and it's doing about 1.75 inches with a 3-9x scope. I'm really hoping that reloads bring it closer to 1 inch because I have mirror commando sniper aspirations, which I'll share with you all as soon as I have a USGI hat and shirt.
Rocket Surgery
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This is correct, you won't have to dump a lot of money into it unless you want to rice it even more than it already is, and it's chinese so it's pretty ricey already.
X2 - pretty much the same story for me. My 2011 factory shorty was great (reliable and reasonably accurate) right out of the box, but just wasn't my thing. Great value for your money, though, if this is the kind of gun you're into!
And therein lies a great point
It may not be your thing.
I have seen many who just could not afford to feed it, or for other reasons it just didn`t float their boat.
Spending $450 on an item and not being happy with it is one thing. Spending $3000 on an item and not being happy with it...........
Plus, if you get bitten by the platform, you already have a top notch hammer forged receiver and Op Rod (not to mention the bolt). Builders use these for platforms because they`re that good.
We have it made up here, we truly do.
So enjoy it, try it out and see what`s what.
You really can`t go wrong
(Just make sure you can afford to feed it 7400 rounds and not an issue. It`s in the same league as my G34.
I love my M14 Norc M305B: I would never part with it. Best money for a semi-auto .308 that could be spent!!!!
I have an M14 and had to do the following:
1. New spring guide. Cost was $40 or less. I think the factory flat guide is the only flaw that needs fixed on every one: a new round guide allows proper and uniform spring movement, and that's important in an M14.
2. Shimmed the gas assembly. Sometimes the stuff just doesn't line up properly: it is made in China of course. I think someone gave me a shim, I forget.
3. Utinized the gas assembly. This is welding a front spring steel part onto the cast steel gas assembly: on mine I saw a massive increase in accuracy (from 6 inch to 2 inch groups with factory ammo) by doing this. I do not think this is maditory on every one, but it was an issue with my exact one. Asked a welder I know who specialized in fussy welding, he did it for free.
4. New flash hider. When I tried to drill and break the welds to remove the flash hider I got a massive crack in the hider, so I bought a used Norc hider that had been drilled off for $10 or something.
So all in all, I only spent two hours and $50 or so (don't exactly remember) on all the needed upgrades. Only the new spring guide I feel is manditory IF you have the factory one in it.
I did do other things, including a custom Krylon paint job, welded a sling swivel and so on... but that's just me tinkering and NOT a requirement.
I have heard of people actually liking Chinese Norc receivers over US Sprinfield receivers that are 4x as much money... if so, that tells you something.
