Norinco M14's availability in the future?

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From the posts I've been reading it looks like there might be some future availability issues. Are they going to stop making/importing these in the near future? I want one but have made several large commitments so bucks are a little tight, I would like to wait but you snooze you loose and I don't want to miss out:( . Does anyone have valid info on this?
 
The issue is the potential world market. Right now with the US market closed to Chinese guns, Canada and a few European countries are left as the major consumers. The Chinese are assembling the M-305 from parts left over from 1990. Unless there is a buyer out there ready to commit to a 5k+ order, Norinco is not likely to pull out the tooling to make any more.
 
Taiwan has over 1,000,000 M14s, aka Type 57, produced off the original US tooling which was sold to them in the 1960s. Not sure if they sold that tooling to China or what's up with how Norinco started making them.

Canuck, if the new rifles are really just old rifles, then why don't people complain about soft bolts any more?
 
Luckyorwhat said:
Canuck, if the new rifles are really just old rifles, then why don't people complain about soft bolts any more?
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If I remember the threads on that topic, the chinese did make harder bolts at the end of the production. There was still some issue with the metal used being of a different type, but they seem to be holding up.
 
I cannot imagine that the ROC sold the PRC tooling to manufacture rifles. Whether the tooling still exists in the ROC, and whether there would be any interest in producing rifles for commercial sale are interesting questions.
 
Well, not wanting to miss out I called the Home Hardware in Yorkton Sask. as directed in another thread and they had a half dozen or so Norc M14's left for $429. Mine should be here by the end of the week. I feel much better now.:dancingbanana:
 
Z06corvette said:
Well, not wanting to miss out I called the Home Hardware in Yorkton Sask. as directed in another thread and they had a half dozen or so Norc M14's left for $429. Mine should be here by the end of the week. I feel much better now.:dancingbanana:
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You could have felt twice as good you know.!:D
 
jimy said:
You could have felt twice as good you know.!:D
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I'm not going to say it didn't cross my mind. I didn't want to push my luck, my better half is pretty understanding already considering the toys I already have in the vault! And the old "Look Honey, I got one for you too" probably wouldn't have worked.
 
Z06corvette said:
Well, not wanting to miss out I called the Home Hardware in Yorkton Sask. as directed in another thread and they had a half dozen or so Norc M14's left for $429. Mine should be here by the end of the week. I feel much better now.:dancingbanana:
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I wish I had reported this sooner:redface:
Not sure if they have any more, but I picked up another Norinco at Russell's two weeks ago for $429.

Also...
I was in Pro Line today and Brian had one in the front rack (not sure on price at Pro Line)
 
Airborn_69 said:
The market for M1A/M14's is pretty much done now, the next FAB for the yanks is the Ar10 SASS types..
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Not really. KAC has some big legal problems and the use of the M14 is becoming more widespread.
 
Different said:
The People's Republic of China made its first M14 rifles in 1965 (nineteen sixty-five). Taiwan did not start making M14 rifles until late 1969.
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How, and why? The other theory I'd heard was that China started making M14s and 1911s to equip giant infiltration forces because that's what Taiwan was using. But if China started manufacturing before Taiwan, that doesn't make sense. And if they started in 1965, does that have any significance to the US stopping production in 1964? Did China get some US machinery too?
 
I was under the belief that Taiwan bought the machinery from the US to make their M14 rifles. Then when they switched rifles, they sold all the machinery to the PRC. So, except for the fact that the rifles are made in china, they are made on the some of the same machines that made M14s for the US.
 
Luckyorwhat said:
How, and why? The other theory I'd heard was that China started making M14s and 1911s to equip giant infiltration forces because that's what Taiwan was using. But if China started manufacturing before Taiwan, that doesn't make sense. And if they started in 1965, does that have any significance to the US stopping production in 1964? Did China get some US machinery too?
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http://www.imageseek.com/m1a/M14RHD1228public.rtf

Got the link from an Army.ca "Has anyone tried the NORINCO M14 "thread, but the forum appears to be down right now.

Says the project was started back when Mao was still around in order to arm rebels in the Phillipines.
 
What Chanman said ...
I also read that the earliest Chinese M-14 clones were originally intended for Phillipino rebels. Apparently there are still some floating around there, still in active duty.

PS: some of the earliest Norc M-14 clones were TRUE M-14 clones.

They were originally full auto, with the leg to hold the nasty bits, and the op rod dismount cut out in the center, rather than back at the rear. Some of the earlier Norc M-14 rifles have a definite line showing where this leg was cut off. The registrars of the time did not know the difference between these and the semi auto only right from the start norcs.

If one wanted to throw some fertiliser into the ventilator, one could take such a LEGALLY registered ex-auto Norc to the CFC and also a GENUINE US GI M-14 , with the leg chopped off, and ask them to logically explain the differnce.

Most likely result of such an exercise would NOT be the making legal of the chopped Genuine M-14, but making illegal all previously legal Norcs.
[;{(
Too bad, so sad...

LAZ 1
 
Lazerus2000 said:
What Chanman said ...
I also read that the earliest Chinese M-14 clones were originally intended for Phillipino rebels. Apparently there are still some floating around there, still in active duty.

PS: some of the earliest Norc M-14 clones were TRUE M-14 clones.

They were originally full auto, with the leg to hold the nasty bits, and the op rod dismount cut out in the center, rather than back at the rear. Some of the earlier Norc M-14 rifles have a definite line showing where this leg was cut off. The registrars of the time did not know the difference between these and the semi auto only right from the start norcs.

If one wanted to throw some fertiliser into the ventilator, one could take such a LEGALLY registered ex-auto Norc to the CFC and also a GENUINE US GI M-14 , with the leg chopped off, and ask them to logically explain the differnce.

Most likely result of such an exercise would NOT be the making legal of the chopped Genuine M-14, but making illegal all previously legal Norcs.
[;{(
Too bad, so sad...

LAZ 1
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if you look really closely at some of the AL series , you'll see this is TRUE- you can see the grind marks where the fun stuff was removed, then blued
 
Better snag one or two while we still can.... I'm reminiscing for the late 1980's when we bought bunch from Israeli sources for $ 400 a piece. :)
 
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