I know this is probably a personal preference question. I've been reading online and people are saying the shorter version is lighter and easier to handle, but what is everyone's take on the barrel length between the two? I plan to go hunting with it, is the 22in barrel really such a drag? Thanks.
Norinco M305 shorty or regular?
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thirtyouttasix
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Not exactly on topic I'd rather not start a new thread.
The "Italian" walnut stocks worth the extra 200? (bumping price up to over 800 with taxes) I know you can go the USGI/Boyds route but I don't want to deal with fitting refinishing etc.
Get the shorty unless you're building a bench monster/like bayonets. Does anyone even have the '22 in stock?
The "Italian" walnut stocks worth the extra 200? (bumping price up to over 800 with taxes) I know you can go the USGI/Boyds route but I don't want to deal with fitting refinishing etc.
Get the shorty unless you're building a bench monster/like bayonets. Does anyone even have the '22 in stock?
If you'd be upgrading to a Boyd's anyway, the Italian stocks are absolutely worth it. The wood seems nicer and the cost difference works out to being close enough to what you'd pay for the Boyd's (plus S&H and possible duties) to make price a wash between the two.
Go with the 22 ,that way , if you want you can have the barrel cut crowned and threaded , this option gives you the most choices later on . First off you can chose how long or short you would like it to be , second and in my opinion the most important is you get a " target grade crown " , third you get it threaded so all the cool ar -15 flash hiders and muzzle breaks will simply screw on the end , because they have the wrong threads in its stock form .
I found this later on ,
The Advantages of Cutting, Crowning and Threading Your M14 Barrel
When you CCT (cut, crown and thread) your M14 barrel, you can incidentally obtain a target grade recessed crown on the M14 barrel. Also, if the threads are cut properly, the LMB is aligned precisely with the bore not with the outside of the barrel. This re-crowning may improve accuracy but it will also improve the rifle's balance and the rifle's swing weight at the muzzle: three desirable characteristics in a modern rifle system.
Furthermore, with a threaded barrel, slight rotation of the LMB offset left or right, adjusts and optimizes the compensator to the ammunition and shooting style of the user. You can effectively fine tune the compensator to push the rifle in the correct direction for tighter double taps. Left handed shooters take note.
For owners of M14 rifles with out of index barrels, the CCT and installation of the LMB+FSB will effectively correct sight alignment at the muzzle. There is no need to re-index the barrel.
The M14.ca LMB also offers a stronger muzzle device to barrel connection than the original M14 muzzle device it replaces and affords the ability to conveniently switch out future muzzle devices with simple tools.
The M14.ca LMB and FSB set offers secure, effective muzzle control and a solid platform for a self-illuminating front sight, or otherwise. Please review our Product Data Sheet for a list of shipping components (listed below).
I found this later on ,
The Advantages of Cutting, Crowning and Threading Your M14 Barrel
When you CCT (cut, crown and thread) your M14 barrel, you can incidentally obtain a target grade recessed crown on the M14 barrel. Also, if the threads are cut properly, the LMB is aligned precisely with the bore not with the outside of the barrel. This re-crowning may improve accuracy but it will also improve the rifle's balance and the rifle's swing weight at the muzzle: three desirable characteristics in a modern rifle system.
Furthermore, with a threaded barrel, slight rotation of the LMB offset left or right, adjusts and optimizes the compensator to the ammunition and shooting style of the user. You can effectively fine tune the compensator to push the rifle in the correct direction for tighter double taps. Left handed shooters take note.
For owners of M14 rifles with out of index barrels, the CCT and installation of the LMB+FSB will effectively correct sight alignment at the muzzle. There is no need to re-index the barrel.
The M14.ca LMB also offers a stronger muzzle device to barrel connection than the original M14 muzzle device it replaces and affords the ability to conveniently switch out future muzzle devices with simple tools.
The M14.ca LMB and FSB set offers secure, effective muzzle control and a solid platform for a self-illuminating front sight, or otherwise. Please review our Product Data Sheet for a list of shipping components (listed below).
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Rooster1a2
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I was actually trying to decide the same thing today. Ended up buying a shorty because I thought it would be more practical and because they were available locally.
One thing that I found out but didn't see any mention of anywhere is you cannot remove the gas piston as the bayonet lug is too close. Otherwise, the gun is fantastic! It is my first battle rifle and I can't believe how much fun this thing is to shoot!
One thing that I found out but didn't see any mention of anywhere is you cannot remove the gas piston as the bayonet lug is too close. Otherwise, the gun is fantastic! It is my first battle rifle and I can't believe how much fun this thing is to shoot!
thirtyouttasix
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Undo the gas cylinder lock a quarter turn (the figure 8 piece that the cylinder plug screws through into the gas cylinder). That extra half inch should give the piston enough clearance to be removed.
Cheers,
-DF
SFRC has a couple shorties left in stock for $499.95, found a couple in Edmonton for $559, & Frontier Firearms has some left at $549. The walnut stocked shorties I have seen for sale have been between $775- $810 (not including tax) which is closer to $300 extra! The walnut stocked rifles are nice looking but I have trouble swallowing 2/3 the price of another complete rifle for the cost of some nice wood; you can take the difference & put it into a nice Sadlak mount. Then next year you hit the wife up for a nice Boyds stock for Christmas
just got a boyds stock with the memorial day special and it was 139.70 at the door... bout 50 shippin
its abit of a hassle to remove the stock furniture on the norc and fit it to the woody
the shorty is sweet... swings nice and handles very well ... the only thing i hated was that plastic stock .. yuck!! and its gone
its abit of a hassle to remove the stock furniture on the norc and fit it to the woody
the shorty is sweet... swings nice and handles very well ... the only thing i hated was that plastic stock .. yuck!! and its gone
Rooster1a2
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Cool, I figured there should be a way to do it. Thanks for the info.
thirtyouttasix
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SFRC has a couple shorties left in stock for $499.95, found a couple in Edmonton for $559, & Frontier Firearms has some left at $549. The walnut stocked shorties I have seen for sale have been between $775- $810 (not including tax) which is closer to $300 extra! The walnut stocked rifles are nice looking but I have trouble swallowing 2/3 the price of another complete rifle for the cost of some nice wood; you can take the difference & put it into a nice Sadlak mount. Then next year you hit the wife up for a nice Boyds stock for Christmas
Depends.. Do I want wood or do I want an to put an aimpoint on it sooner?
choices choices choices
wayupnorth
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i dont know, i have a hard time eating that extra price for the italian wood.
i put the Boyd walnut on my dads for him and it took me all of about a hour and thats including giving the gun its initial cleaning.
was my first time doing it and i had no problems, had to sand down one area for a better fit, for the $100 id go that route.
as for the difference, i run the 22 my dad rungs the shorty.
mine is more accurate.
not sure why, but it is.
my next one will be a Socom just for giggles.
the wood is the shorty.
i put the Boyd walnut on my dads for him and it took me all of about a hour and thats including giving the gun its initial cleaning.
was my first time doing it and i had no problems, had to sand down one area for a better fit, for the $100 id go that route.
as for the difference, i run the 22 my dad rungs the shorty.
mine is more accurate.
not sure why, but it is.
my next one will be a Socom just for giggles.
the wood is the shorty.
This will be one of my few posts these days ... Seems some folks have been asking about identifying origins of receivers.
"CJA" of springfield michigan was an importer of norinco rifles prior to "the ban" in the US.
Receivers marked as such were initially made and marked and destined for the US market.
To date manufacture year of a chinese receiver, send the numbers below the left side stock line to CGN member "different"
Any other comments on the topic of "origins" are just people guessing. You either know, or you don't.
For the OP, I like the shorties due to less barrel whip
"CJA" of springfield michigan was an importer of norinco rifles prior to "the ban" in the US.
Receivers marked as such were initially made and marked and destined for the US market.
To date manufacture year of a chinese receiver, send the numbers below the left side stock line to CGN member "different"
Any other comments on the topic of "origins" are just people guessing. You either know, or you don't.
For the OP, I like the shorties due to less barrel whip
